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Canceling Lenz's Law - Methods

Started by supermuble, November 19, 2008, 03:48:27 PM

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wattsup

@sparks and @grumpy and @all

You know what a Faraday cage is. It is used to keep out ambient magnetic influences from entering into it's interior. So inside the cage has no outside field influence and outside the cage has a field influence. Has..... does not have....... lol

So if you could send a coil in and out of a Faraday cage, it will experience a differential in the ambient magnetic field and hence, should make some juice. Since the cage is not magnetic, it should not be influenced by Lenz's law.

The ambient field I am referring to is the simplest one that points your compass towards the North Pole. That is the ambient magnetism level.

Is that logical?

Now to appreciate the strength of the North Pole take a compass and a magnet and identify the north side of the magnet. Then put the compass on a table and let it point to the real North Pole. Take the magnet and put it on the side of the compass that is pointing to the south but with the north side of the magnet pointing towards the south side of the compass. Approach the compass to the north pole of the magnet. Now slowing move the compass farther and farther from the magnet until the compass points back to real north. That is the distance that your magnet can influence until the real north pole takes over again. So the real North Pole has the strength equal to your magnet at the distance you have found. So in reality as you walk around anywhere the strength of the Earths magnetic field is like having a whole bunch of those small magnets you used in the test that are placed all around you at the distance required. This is no small pickings. I don't think people realize or appreciate all the energy involved.

So I am wondering if you could build a very huge Faraday Cage Generator, would it make a difference if you built it anywhere on the surface of the northern hemisphere, or, if you would get maximum surface results if it was built right at the north pole, or, do you have to go down down down into the Earths crust to get an even higher field strength because the actual Earths physical magnet stops at the magma core, and all the rest right up to the Earths surface would be like a magnets insulation. Like the real magnet above and the distance to where the real North Pole takes over.

Now here's the after thought for TPU's.

A baling wire cage could also be used to make a Faraday Cage. But how do you make the Faraday Cage effect disappear in intervals, without moving the cage physically. lol What if you gave it very small electric impulses? Would the cage alternate between a field cloaking (at off) and field initiating (at on).

What I am trying to explain is that in usual coupling we look to create the most extreme differences to simulate a moving magnet over a wire. But the wire is already biased or plunged into the sea of the Earth magnetic field meaning the moving magnet has to be that much stronger to create a difference. Now that strength seems like nothing but it is substantial and using a Faraday cage would send the coupling effect from an "absolute zero field" when the cage is a cloak to the ambient field strength that equals all those magnets placed around you.

So in the FTPU, the outer ring could be the collector and the outer coil could be the field deflector or the Faraday Cage. By pulsing a very very small current into the outer coil, you are neutralizing the cloaking quality around the collector that does let the magnetism from the FTPU magnet to reach the collector. Then when the outer coil is at off, the magnet's field is cloaked by the outer coil and this change creates power in the collector. This could be easily tested. But the clincher is in the FTPU this could be working in reverse where the pulse in the outer coil is deflecting the magnet field from touching the outer ring and at off is letting the magnet field hit the outer ring or collector.

wattsup

sparks

    @Wattsup

    Your post has me thinking about SM's TPU


   If we look at his optimized unit the last one he had up for sale we see a  choke with two copper ring windings inside.  If the magnetic field is compressed by a kick input  to a torroidal choke the core magnetic field is densified.  And absorbs the voltage spike because of the impedance match to the unwanted signal.  This energy does not go away.  The compression of the magnetic field induces a voltage between all fields of different flux densities unlike itself.  This is a simple fact discovered by Faraday.  This voltage will create currents of various magnitudes and quickly eddy currents convert the energy of the pulse into heat. 
Say this compressed field is maintained and the field is shielded from magnetic fields of differing flux density.  The pulse energy therefore resides in the magnetic field compression.  Subsequent pulses therefore maintain the compressed field and can be reduced in amplitude to a maintenance level.  Any warping of the compressed field will result in a voltage arising between the two areas of the compressed field.  If conductors lie within these two different flux compression zones they will represent a path for the induced voltage between these two different magnetic flux density zones to discharge through.  If the ambient magnetic density is manipulated to sustain this compressed field warping  a conversion from the magnetic ambient energy into a special kind of eddy current could insue.  Attention of course to the electrical fields within the core must be maintained otherwise the current will discharge from coil to coil within the device.
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@All

A Faraday cage has little to no effect upon a static or slowly changing magnetic field, unless you build it from a ferrous material. Even with iron screen there will be magnetic field within the cage.

I know of no method to remove all influence from the Earth's magnetic field.

Some Gauss meters com with a box that shields the meter from electromagnetic radiation just so the meter can be used to register the magnetic field from the Earth.


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Quote from: wattsup on January 20, 2009, 09:56:53 AM
@sparks and @grumpy and @all

You know what a Faraday cage is. It is used to keep out ambient magnetic influences from entering into it's interior...

Big confusion. A Faraday cage doesn't work against magnetic fields but against electric fields, the principle being that the repartition of the electrons on the cage creates an electric field opposing the outside electric field.
Static or quasi-static magnetic fields are not shielded  by Faraday cages.

Only HF magnetic fields are also shielded, if the holes size of the mesh is less than the half-wave length and the thickness of the metal is sufficient relative to the frequency (the ability of a variable magnetic field to penetrate a metal is inversely proportionnal to its frequency squared). It is due to Foucault currents opposing the changing magnetic field (wich is not the principle of a Farady cage).

A box with very thick walls in metal of high magnetic permeability can shield static magnetic field by diverting the lines of flux from the inside, but it is not yet a "Faraday" cage, its working principle is also completely different.

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