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Overunity Machines Forum



Canceling Lenz's Law - Methods

Started by supermuble, November 19, 2008, 03:48:27 PM

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i_ron

Quote from: BEP on December 03, 2008, 10:47:33 PM
@Wattsup

I won’t say much more about this idea except the following:

This generator cannot be used as a motor. Dimensions and material are up to you.

The basic concept is rotor cogging and the majority of magnetic drag is avoided. The reason is at any rotor radial position the magnetic flux density or ‘flow’ (not appropriate) from the magnet remains the same.


BEP


Well I tried... and got a conventional result.

It ran at 16.589 watts no load and 17.528 watts under load

That is .939 watts increase to make .7 watts....

Ron




BEP

What is the material of your balance weights and weight bolts?
They should not be magnetically conductive. In your layout they probably should not be electrically conductive either. (Eddy currents)

The gap between the feet looks large. If you have some solid aluminum wire try jamming short pieces in the gap nearest the rotor. No need for a motor for initial tests. Just spin by hand with the coil open to check for cogging.

Don't spend much more time on it until I have my demo built for your viewing. I didn't expect you to be working on it right now so I've been slacking in my home bench work to keep up at work.


i_ron

Quote from: BEP on February 11, 2009, 05:46:12 PM
What is the material of your balance weights and weight bolts?
They should not be magnetically conductive. In your layout they probably should not be electrically conductive either. (Eddy currents)

The gap between the feet looks large. If you have some solid aluminum wire try jamming short pieces in the gap nearest the rotor. No need for a motor for initial tests. Just spin by hand with the coil open to check for cogging.

Don't spend much more time on it until I have my demo built for your viewing. I didn't expect you to be working on it right now so I've been slacking in my home bench work to keep up at work.


The counterbalance weights are lead with SS bolts

I have been doing sixteen other things myself... and just wanted to get this finished off

The gap is .067 thou

Ron

capthook

What about REDUCING Lenz?

Is Lenz dependant on CURRENT or POWER?

Say producing 100 watts:

1. 10V x 10A = 100 watts
Large CURRENT means large field in windings meaning large Lenz?

2. 50V x 2A = 100 watts
Small CURRENT means small field in windings meaning small Lenz?

The generator windings are like an electromagnet.... the more current, the stronger the field.

So will producing power at a large voltage but small current reduce Lenz??

Hmmm.. then again... if you get the larger voltage by using more turns.....

The field strength is: N(turns)x I(amps)

So increasing the turns to get the higher voltage/decrease the amps multiplies out to the same field/same Lenz ......  :-X  ?
BUT - increasing RPM's to increase voltage rather than TURNS = less Lenz?

hartiberlin

Quote from: capthook on April 18, 2009, 03:14:20 PM
What about REDUCING Lenz?

Is Lenz dependant on CURRENT or POWER?

Say producing 100 watts:

1. 10V x 10A = 100 watts
Large CURRENT means large field in windings meaning large Lenz?

2. 50V x 2A = 100 watts
Small CURRENT means small field in windings meaning small Lenz?

The generator windings are like an electromagnet.... the more current, the stronger the field.

So will producing power at a large voltage but small current reduce Lenz??

Hmmm.. then again... if you get the larger voltage by using more turns.....

The field strength is: N(turns)x I(amps)

So increasing the turns to get the higher voltage/decrease the amps multiplies out to the same field/same Lenz ......  :-X  ?
BUT - increasing RPM's to increase voltage rather than TURNS = less Lenz?

These are very good questions.

This must be checked out by experiments.

By the way, if you use higher ohmical coils and want to avoid
the ohmical losses at the coil resistance then you get best the energy out of the
coil by using a graetz bridge across the coil and pulsing it and putting the BackEMF into
a Capacitor via the graetz diode bridge.
Then you have the charged up capacitor as the output energy source.
Tommy Lee Reed is doing this on youtube now and gets quite some
overunity effects,
see:

http://www.youtube.com/user/EnergyTechnologyNow

Hope this helps.

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum