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Cavitation. The key to overunity?

Started by Pirate88179, November 29, 2008, 10:50:09 AM

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Linearfashion

One thing that I think has been overlooked is that little shrimp is how many feet deep? and this would have an increased pressure, therefore the cavitation would collapse much faster and possibly create a larger bang. So the insight here is to pressurize a container then cause cavitation. just a thought

alan

Quote from: sparks on December 02, 2008, 09:29:12 AM
@alan

    The concentration of the heat energy is stronger than the electrostatic repulsion of the protons in the plasma field.  Holy grail of particle physists.

Exactly, not strong force :P
But you're not talking about cavitation right now, correct?
Or are you aiming at cavitation using plasma?

Clem model, Google shows Hao-Clem model, same thing?

hansvonlieven

G'day all,

Just a few facts about water that seem to be relevant here.

WATER (H2O) is the third most common molecule in the Universe (after H2 and CO), the most abundant substance on earth and the only naturally occurring inorganic liquid, a billion cubic kilometers of which reside in our oceans and 50 tons of which pass through our bodies in our lifetimes. It has been very well studied with a number of model structures having been proposed and refined. Notwithstanding this, extensively hydrogen-bonded liquid water is unique with a number of anomalous properties. It has commonly been stated that no single model is able to explain all of its properties.

And we all thought water was the simplest of all things. Evidently not. Let's have a closer look at it.

The first complication with water is that there are three different forms of hydrogen that we know of, each capable of combining with oxygen to produce a clear odourless liquid that on first inspection looks and feels like water.

The first, protium (H), is the one we commonly associate with hydrogen. It has at its core only one proton.

The second, deuterium (D), has one proton and one neutron at its core. In combination with oxygen it becomes D2H, which is known as heavy water. Deuterium occurs in water at about 0.015%.

The third, tritium (T), has one proton and two neutrons at its core. It is radioactive and has a half life of 12.32 years. It combines with oxygen to form tritiated water T2O. The low-energy beta radiation from tritium cannot penetrate human skin, so tritium is only dangerous if inhaled or ingested.

The three forms of hydrogen combine with water to form what we know as water and five isotopologues. (The isotopologue of a chemical species has at least one atom with a different number of neutrons.) This gives as the only possible combinations , all of which occur in what we call water:

H-O-H , D-O-H , T-O-H , D-O-D , T-O-D , T-O-T


With Koen's idea about using heavy water D2O instead of ordinary water why not use tritiated water  T2O instead, since it is radioactive and unstable to start with. Trouble is getting hold of the stuff.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

CrazyFox

Cavitation in a water/oil emulsion flow:
There is a quatum phase shift due to vortex motion at the implosion "Thermolic Center" of the micelles. The elongated micelles thermal center is nearer the center of rotation than the channel wall. With proton repulsion ~0.7MeV and thermal Plasma above 3 X 109K (Kelvin) the 0.6 X10-13J Kinetic energy ...hydrogen fusion occurs.
Little is known about the phase shift in relation to hydrogen fusion except the 1 nano second implosion time is distorted. This may or may not effect the orientation of the dipole moment of water molecules at different locations in the vapor phase water vapor micelles that are elongated. I suspect that this may well determine which water molecules go to fusion rather than reforming.
It may well be the determining factor in lite water fusion in the Clem model vortex.
Viktor Schauberger had been working on this at the end of WWII. He did not use complicated equations to express his ideas but later asked his son Walter to remedy that so the scientific community could better understand his ideas. I am a retired Boeing AWACS technician and developmental software lab operator. I am not very proficient with quantum calculations.
This will conclude my comments on the Clem Engine model.

AbbaRue

So after consideration of this Cavitation concept, I've concluded that
this is the secret to making the "fuel less heater" work.
As one container spins inside the other cavitation bubbles are formed between the two containers.
And these bubbles release large amounts of heat as they implode.

So I see a better system would have small holes drilled in the sides of the cylinders, that only go part way through.
And then as you spin the inside container, these small holes in the walls would set up a strong cavitation.
So anyone that tried to get the "fuel less heater" to work but couldn't knows what to do now.