Cavitation. The key to overunity?

[Koen1]

@spinner: good post.

@ramset: well, indeed if you wish to believe that cavitation is
something different than the fairly clear science it is, then
perhaps it is on topic.
Metal spheres with simple wire coils stuck in the middle
are not usually considered cavitation devices.
Yes, cavitation can be achieved by pumping the right
frequency of sound into water, which makes sense
because sound is pressure waves in the medium so to obtain
a pressure effect like cavitation from that is possible.
Pumping EM frequencies into the water shouldn't really do anything
related to cavitation at all, since no physical pressure waves are
created by EM waves, and no physical pressure effect like
cavitation should be possible.

I still have not heard anyone explain that huge difference.
How do you want to get a pressure effect like cavitation
by using EM waves which are not pressure waves in
the physical medium that you want to compress to achieve
cavitation?

And then there seems to be a spinoff that is also named "cavitation"
by its proponents, but they seem to be talking about "cavitating"
the "aether" by using EM waves. This is clearly not exactly
the meaning of "cavitation" in the normal physical medium sense,
and should not be confused with cavitation of water for example.
It is also highly theoretical and according to some totally impossible.
Perhaps this field of study would best be named "aether cavitation"
or "EM compression"?
In any case, although that is an interesting pth of thought, I do think
we should make a clear distinction between the two.

Anyone agree (or disagree)?

Regards,
Koen

[Paul-R]

This Dale Pond video is just another delusion.
Lol, JWK is a certified charlatan, one of the first and most known fraudsters ....

Do you have any evidence for these remarks?

[spinner]

Thanks. Koen1! 


@Paul-R

Do you have any evidence for these remarks?

"This Dale Pond video is just another delusion."

The guy is talking a lot about how science was and still is wrong, ... he is talking about oscillation, cavitation, and even water hammer effect as being OU... etc....
As it is normal with such people - all talk, but no proof....


"Lol, JWK is a certified charlatan, one of the first and most known fraudsters ...."

What, you didn't knew that?  The Hydro-Vaccuo stuff, and all the fancy talk, the drained investors and his pneumatics hobby? 
I suggest you search the web....

[madddann]

@ spinner

Ohh my ***************************************
...i really do not like to argue and it is not in my interest to do so, but just look at what are you saying... guys like you will just never gonna get it and i'm not gonna say a word more.

@Koen1

"Metal spheres with simple wire coils stuck in the middle
are not usually considered cavitation devices."

-Maybe, but there are no wire coils in that device - at least not that i'm aware of - do you see any? So show it to me please.

"Yes, cavitation can be achieved by pumping the right
frequency of sound into water, which makes sense
because sound is pressure waves in the medium so to obtain
a pressure effect like cavitation from that is possible."

-Correct - this should be the way that this device works.

"Pumping EM frequencies into the water shouldn't really do anything
related to cavitation at all, since no physical pressure waves are
created by EM waves, and no physical pressure effect like
cavitation should be possible."

-I'm not sure about that, but anyway it seems to have nothing to do with that device.

Koen1 you are very welcome to post into my thread, so go ahead and post statements about what you think should work and what not, but please leave the hate aside from that. The purpose of the "Water heater from WITS" thread is to collect data about the device, so anyone that thinks to know something about how it works, or how it does not work, please post into that thread, so we don't go offtopic here THX.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6208.0

Dann

[Koen1]

Well actually the remark about wire coils was aimed
at the Thrapp "OU cavitation heater" video...

Watching that (several years old) video I see a rod type
thing stuck into the metal sphere, and wires running to it.
The wires are connected to a multimeter, so that would imply
simple electric input.
If you look at the shots where he pulls the thing out to pour
the hot water out of the sphere, and you can get a good look
at about 8 minutes into the video, you can see a gizmo on that
rod, and that gizmo looks a huge lot like a coil.

It certainly does not look like a speaker for producing sound.

Now it could be that he is generating sound waves but then
how does he do it without any oscillating membrane?

And if it is a speaker, then can you tell me what type of weird
rod-mounted coil-lookalike speaker contraption it is?