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Cavitation. The key to overunity?

Started by Pirate88179, November 29, 2008, 10:50:09 AM

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spinner

Quote from: allcanadian on December 07, 2008, 05:59:08 PM
@spinnerLOL, thats funny ;D
Can you tell me the last time you have heard of a resistive heating element forming resonant standing waves in the media it is immersed in and returning over 90% of it's energy to the next cycle?.
As well if cavitation is so well understood why is there a huge amount of interest in it by universities and corporations in this day and age? Why is there a great deal of literature concerning cavitation coming from the scientific establishment concerning an effect you state is "well understood"?.The fact of the matter is that cavitation is not well understood, LOL, science still cannot explain why a bumblebee can fly as physics still states it is impossible. I believe the problem here is that you cannot get past the thermodynamics involved, the heat energy may be conserved in cavitation but you have not considered the shock wave and the fact it may form "oscillations" or standing waves adding to the source.

RULE #1-----You harness the "ACT" of power as well as the "REACTION" to it.
And here we go again...
What's up with the resonance??? Why is it so special?
How about standing waves? Are they causing OU, or what? Is this a Keely project?
What do you know about cavitation that it's not already wide known? Any new info? Why are we not using all those cavitational heaters??

Or,  the fixed idea about science saying that bumble-bee cannot fly? Where the hell you're getting this info? Ah, from a reliable OU sources? Yes, I've been reading this for a long time. Surprisingly, I cannot find a source. It must be the MiBs...
Do you have a verifiable proof that thermodynamics failed in any of those "FE" devices?

BTW, a very common resistive electrical heating element can convert electricity to heat with a +98% efficiency. Can you do better?
How about FE alternatives? Friction heaters?  etc, etc...

"Ex nihilo nihil"

madddann

Let me say that probably the frequency is not picked up by the camera, 'cause it is higher that the camera can detect, but if you tell me a fast way to get the video on my PC, i 'll try to look into it and post a picture of the spectral analyzer.

Anyway i think the device is all about circulation and amplifycation of a shockwave inside the sphere the timing is the key here. The timing is defined by the position of the detector outside on the sphere.

Dann

madddann

@Pirate88179

Thx for your input about steam.

@spinner

What is your point here anyway? All i can say to you is observe the nature and learn from it, then do experiments... this is the key to new knowledge.

Dann

spinner

Quote from: madddann on December 07, 2008, 05:54:11 PM
I posted this as a response to ramset, only to provide the proof that cavitation can be acheived in water using transducers.
I know exactly what a 1 kW heating element can do to water, actually i have a 200l homemade water heater placed right here next to me in this room right now - i can send you a picture of it if you want  ;) You think i'm a rookie? Well think whatever you want and also go to learn what can be acheived with resonance.

Dann

FYI, there are several cavitation mechanisms... Which one are you referring to? Or, which one is OU?

How is your water heater powered?
Maybe it's just one of those old water heaters where electricity is wasted only to produce heat...
Why don't you change it with any of the FE heating devices widely known on the market? How about your Witts ultrasonic cavitation device?
What can be achieved with resonance? A Unity? This is known for many many years.....
I thought you said OverUnity...
"Ex nihilo nihil"

khabe

Quote from: spinner on December 07, 2008, 07:00:19 PM

BTW, a very common resistive electrical heating element can convert electricity to heat with a +98% efficiency. Can you do better?
How about FE alternatives? Friction heaters?  etc, etc...



I dont know much about cavity principle but ... are you sure that common resistive electrical heating element can convert electricity to heat with a +98% efficiency ???
Then what about direct current heaters wheres 3 phase  electrodes are direct in water  and whats bit more efficient mode of water heating - what is this "bit" then?
between +98%....99,9% ???  I have this system in my house, up to 12kW and I pay less than before when was common 9kW resistive element heaters.
I think that resistive electrical heating elements are not so high efficient as you described.
cheers,
khabe