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Cavitation. The key to overunity?

Started by Pirate88179, November 29, 2008, 10:50:09 AM

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Grumpy

Quote from: TheBuzz on December 14, 2008, 09:55:32 PM
Grumpy,

I might add to that have another look at Meyer's transformer and compare the two.

Anyone with transformer experience would look at Meyer's transformer and say he built a transformer designed to work against itself.

The first time I looked at it I figured he probably wound the secondary on top of the primary as that is how old disruptive discharge transformers work. After seeing Thane's work I need to revisit Meyer's toroid which I have wound different ways about 4 times now.

Thane's work is very interesting because so many old free energy devices used a similar method. Maybe this one will get documented and we can build upon it.

Does Meyer's transformer look like a saturable reactor?
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
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sparks

     Meyer copied Tesla's input circuits but Tesla would use motor coils for his series diresonant circuit.  Faraday tells us that between any two fields of different magnetic density a voltage will manifest.  Spherics posted on this forum and relayed information about SM's rediscovery of the effect when he sent a signal through two audio transformers that had slightly different saturation parameters.   By controlling the saturation parameters of the chokes feeding the capacitor a very short shock wave or kick appears across the capacitor.  Look at the chokes as turbines with flywheels attached.  When pressure is first applied to the turbines there is no water flowing.  But there is pressure to inertia conversion.    The line pressure drops but the flywheels do there thing.  Very little if not any current flows from the line yet the current induced by the collapse of the chokes magnetic fields slightly out of phase charges the capacitor. 
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Koen1

Ok, having been savagely offline by a severe flu,
I am now finally back and guess I've missed something...

Scanning the past pages it seems that Buzz who claims
to know all there is to know about cavitation OU has
confirmed that Thrapp is using not only one but two
piezoelectric ultrasonic transducers in his sphere heater.
Great.

So now let's take it from the top then,
we use 1 spherical container,
2 piezo ultrasonic transducers,
and then what?
How do we replicate a Thrapp/Davy-like heater
using two transducers and one sphere?
Once we know that, we can try to replicate,
and we can see for ourselves how much input
produces how much output.

Come on Buzz, seeing that you know so much about how this works,
explain it to us laymen and tell us how we can build one? ;)

Formulae and equations that show how the claimed energy equates
to lost mass is all nice, but the real proof of the pudding is still
in replicating such a device including its OU performance.
So let's do it then?

Regards,
Koen

Grumpy

Quote from: TheBuzz on December 15, 2008, 03:12:06 AM
No but then neither does Thanes. A saturable reactor is usually wound like half a mag amp.

Meyer's Transformer looks to me to reflect a unipolar wave back and forth between the primary side and the (choke) side. The pick up for precise timing of a sharp pulse.

Or... and more plausible, the high side goes high and the ground being pulled lower which most of his notes indicate he was doing. I wound one to do that yesterday and it actually worked OK as those experiments went. I need to put a few hundred more winds on the big choke to see if I can pull the B- lower though. I think I read the the B- voltage had to be greater than the B+ in one of his early patents. I don't trust patent drawings on something like that due to the sensitive nature of the technology.

But then I am one of those nut jobs that thinks 911 was an inside job and Stan's brother is really Stan. Someone gave me his phone number and told me to call him but I never did. He called him though and thought it was Stan too.

You see that thing in the news about Bush going to Bagdad to bid farewell and the reporter throwing his shoes at Bush? Almost got him too. Smart thinking on Bush's part since I guess if he wanted to bid farewell, nobody would be happier to see him go that the Iraqis. :-)

A picture is worth a thousand words  - that's funny!

Like everything else, there is more than one way to get cavitation.  Meyer's way can't be the only way.  Meyer's stated he imparted universal energy into the water or what became of the water and there are probably several ways to do that.  I can't see youtube vids, but I have heard that Meyer's device was not pouring the gas off like you see in HHO cells.   This is what I would expect - few bubbles - if he is indead using what he calls universal energy.

You mentioned earlier that the "aether" is moving faster than earth, and that it is not the source of extra energy.  If matter is composed of aether, and excess energy comes from matter, then doesn't the excess come from the aether in a round-about-sort-of-way?  Also, if the aether is "moving" or "changing" then isn't it dynamic? If it is dynamic, what keeps it "changing"?

Meyer's transformer sounds like a "Smith coil" - anyone have a picture of Meyer's transformer?

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EDIT:

Looking at the diagram of Meyer's transformer - I see he knew about unipolar field - that sure got my attention.



It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards

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Koen
I don't know if its just me !!
You sound very sarcastic?? Glad to see your feeling better
Grumpy and Sparks and TheBuzz are discusing Thane and Meyers Presently
Very interesting stuff!!
Chet
PS I am Very interseted in the sphere also. There is another thread where this is being discused now. I will post the link [BY HHO CELL Good stuff]
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