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Overunity Machines Forum



coil size

Started by 4REAL, December 08, 2008, 01:05:05 PM

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4REAL

I have some questions about making a coil for My Newman Motor #3.

Currently I have 1,600 feet of awg 20 magnet wire wound on a 4" inch thin walled PVC drain pipe. It has been suggested that I would need AT LEAST TEN TIMES that much if I expect to get any over unity. Is this correct?

I am planning on buying 20,000 feet of awg 26-magnet wire. I would imagine that to get optimum performance the dimensions of the coil would be important. CORRECT?

I am thinking that the gauge and length of the wire available could give some indication of about what size of coil I would want to turn. So if my budget limited me to buy 20,000 feet of AWG 26 is there a rule of thumb I could follow as to what dimensions I would want my coil to be?

I need some idea because the sizes of magnets that are available are limited. And the magnets should turn as close as possible to the inside of the coil, CORRECT?

 

kmarinas86

Quote from: 4REAL on December 08, 2008, 01:05:05 PM
I have some questions about making a coil for My Newman Motor #3.

Currently I have 1,600 feet of awg 20 magnet wire wound on a 4" inch thin walled PVC drain pipe. It has been suggested that I would need AT LEAST TEN TIMES that much if I expect to get any over unity. Is this correct?

A 4" pipe is not wide enough to house enough magnets. And you will a need longer wire, especially if it is 20AWG.

Quote from: 4REAL on December 08, 2008, 01:05:05 PM
I am planning on buying 20,000 feet of awg 26-magnet wire. I would imagine that to get optimum performance the dimensions of the coil would be important. CORRECT?

Absoutely. Not only do the turns have to be wide, you need strong magnets too. This is where you can hurt yourself, so watch out.

Quote from: 4REAL on December 08, 2008, 01:05:05 PMI am thinking that the gauge and length of the wire available could give some indication of about what size of coil I would want to turn. So if my budget limited me to buy 20,000 feet of AWG 26 is there a rule of thumb I could follow as to what dimensions I would want my coil to be?

The magnets that will fit in nice should weigh about the same as the coil that you are using. So you must adjust the turns accordingly. This will strongly affect your budget.

Quote from: 4REAL on December 08, 2008, 01:05:05 PMI need some idea because the sizes of magnets that are available are limited. And the magnets should turn as close as possible to the inside of the coil, CORRECT?

Yes.

4REAL

Thanks for your  Guidance Kmarinas86 :)

JustAnElectrician

 ;D
4real, I think you posted a similar Q on T.E.E.P. and I said switching speed is as important as coil length, and I figured what it would be for 20,000 feet of a small gauge you listed there... that still holds, and what Kmarinas86 says is also true, but you can go shorter with FASTER SWITCHING! Mosfets are fast and likely the answer. Read Newman's book here:
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/
scroll down to Newman Part 1: "The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman" and start downloading!
it has 5 parts, and you can learn in Joe's own words... very clear, and it agrees with all classical EM theory as far as I know, and I was trained classical. I am a Union Electrician, graduated #1 in my class quite easily, I shoulda went to MIT but I was Bart Simpson "underachiever" so I did the electrical gig.
Not bragging, I say all that to validate that I have at least some skillz... Newman rings true as far as I can ascertain.

-Rob
moderator @ http://imhotepslabs.freeforums.org/
Open Sourcerer Apprentice!

4REAL

Hi Ya!  justanelectrician

Yep that was me. Since then I am still laid off from work my computer has crashed and I have lost all the videos I was going to post on you tube.  I did construct a crude commutator that pulsed my coil 24 times per rotation and of course reversed the polarity every 180 degrees. It ran the motor well but with the short coil length nothing note worthy happened. Now I need to tighten my fiscal belt and hunker down for the rest of the winter and hope some one will want there house painted this spring.

I will leave all of this interesting and magnificent research to you people with the tools and brains for such things. I will be watching with great interest though..

Peace every body!