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IST! NEO ZAP! TECK Breakthrough ....

Started by innovation_station, December 13, 2008, 03:23:34 PM

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MrMag

Quote from: Westland on June 02, 2010, 06:53:54 PM
Ok so I was getting a little bored, and it's too hot in the house, so I went down in my basement. I fired up my Kromrey converter for the first time swince I got the brushes aligned so they work correctly. The voltage on my charge battery went from 12.45 to 12.50 in a matter of seconds, and that is the "resting" voltage once I let it set for a few minutes after turning it off. Problem is, it burnt all the insulation off the wire that goes from my source battery to the motor. All the other wires were fine. Hmmmm. Does this mean my motor was pulling too many amps for my wire? I am just a half retired beginner when it comes to electronics. Anybody out there who knows anything got any ideas?

Do you think you could draw up a little schematic. I think it could be a few things.

1) some of the BEMF is pushing back against the battery. You might need to put a diode in series with the battery/coil.
2) timing on the contacts may need to be adjusted a bit.
3) maybe you are drawing a little too much. What is the resistance of the coil?

A schematic would really help in narrowing it down.

I also think you should start a new thread for your motor or post in the Bendini thread.
What you are doing is far more advanced then what is mentioned in this thread.

sparks

   What is interesting with the neozap is that this experiment resembles a thermal to electric conversion device proposed by Tesla in 1891 or there abouts.  The magnetic field of a permanent magnet was caused to setup in a keeper device with coils wrapped around the keeper.   The keeper becoming the core of a transformer with only an output winding aboard.  When the core was heated the keeper domains would breakdown and the windings seeing a changing magnetic field would produce emf.  Then the heat was removed and the pm would restore the magnetic domains back in the keeper/core material.  The neos positioned so that a weak magnetic field reaches a core material and the output of the transformer coils causing just enough inductive heating to cause a rapid disintegration of the core magnetization.  The thermal photons radiated would drop the core temperature and the pm would then exert its influence in changing the magnetic field within the confines of the core/keeper.
It would be a real balancing trick to create such a sceanario but heat engines do exist and the disintegration process is helped by any thermal input of the surrounds.  Any thermal radiation also cools the core allowing for a heat engine of sorts especially if the wavelength of the radiated thermal energy is transparent to the mass of the core.  The induced frequency that "heats" the core is a product of the load circuit.  This would cause any incident thermal photons to undergo thomson scattering and the boost in frequency from electron motion is the gain in power of the system.
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MrMag

Quote from: sparks on June 03, 2010, 12:12:08 AM
   What is interesting with the neozap is that this experiment resembles a thermal to electric conversion device proposed by Tesla in 1891 or there abouts.  The magnetic field of a permanent magnet was caused to setup in a keeper device with coils wrapped around the keeper.   The keeper becoming the core of a transformer with only an output winding aboard.  When the core was heated the keeper domains would breakdown and the windings seeing a changing magnetic field would produce emf.  Then the heat was removed and the pm would restore the magnetic domains back in the keeper/core material.  The neos positioned so that a weak magnetic field reaches a core material and the output of the transformer coils causing just enough inductive heating to cause a rapid disintegration of the core magnetization.  The thermal photons radiated would drop the core temperature and the pm would then exert its influence in changing the magnetic field within the confines of the core/keeper.
It would be a real balancing trick to create such a sceanario but heat engines do exist and the disintegration process is helped by any thermal input of the surrounds.  Any thermal radiation also cools the core allowing for a heat engine of sorts especially if the wavelength of the radiated thermal energy is transparent to the mass of the core.  The induced frequency that "heats" the core is a product of the load circuit.  This would cause any incident thermal photons to undergo thomson scattering and the boost in frequency from electron motion is the gain in power of the system.

IST's neozap does not resemble what you are speaking about at all. He is only shorting out his power adapter through an induction coil with a nickel plated neo magnet attached to one of the leads. There is no keeper, or heat involved.(except for the heat produced from shorting it out).

sparks

  My bad.  I remember watching some utube video is made where he had a neo in the middle of a torroid and waving a second pm a foot or two away from the setup and getting some vibration in the mobile magnet.  I thought this was the neo thing but as you described I also remember a utube of his with some arcing going on down the side of a magnet.  It did get me researching some of Teslas magnet spark gap quenching back then which led to study of Teslas thermal pyloric generator designs.  The generator had no moving parts other than a steam valve and some poor slave shoveling coal into a firebox.  The steam after exiting the generator could be used through a normal turbine generator or for direct heating of a plant.  Cogeneration scheme without the noisy inefficient infernal combustion engine.  You could put one of these in the flue pipe of a boiler or furnace and get some small wattage out of the remaining heat content in the flue gas with a diverter valve which either lets the flue gas go straight up the stack or through the generator.  Incoming water to the water heater could be valved in to aid the cooling of the keeper and preheat the hot water.  The unit would proove out if some of the current generated acts as the thermal scource for the keeper scrambling.
If it takes as much energy to scramble the keeper as the generator puts out then there is trouble but if the normal energy consuming eddy currents are prevailed on to scramble the core and the permanent magnet resetting the core maybe Tesla left us a nice motionless generator.  Get rid of the coal and the fire and just go with eddy current heating of the core and cooling provided by cold water circulated through the keeper.  So many experiments to do and so little time.
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MrMag

Quote from: sparks on June 03, 2010, 09:39:49 PM
  My bad.  I remember watching some utube video is made where he had a neo in the middle of a torroid and waving a second pm a foot or two away from the setup and getting some vibration in the mobile magnet.  I thought this was the neo thing but as you described I also remember a utube of his with some arcing going on down the side of a magnet.  It did get me researching some of Teslas magnet spark gap quenching back then which led to study of Teslas thermal pyloric generator designs.  The generator had no moving parts other than a steam valve and some poor slave shoveling coal into a firebox.  The steam after exiting the generator could be used through a normal turbine generator or for direct heating of a plant.  Cogeneration scheme without the noisy inefficient infernal combustion engine.  You could put one of these in the flue pipe of a boiler or furnace and get some small wattage out of the remaining heat content in the flue gas with a diverter valve which either lets the flue gas go straight up the stack or through the generator.  Incoming water to the water heater could be valved in to aid the cooling of the keeper and preheat the hot water.  The unit would proove out if some of the current generated acts as the thermal scource for the keeper scrambling.
If it takes as much energy to scramble the keeper as the generator puts out then there is trouble but if the normal energy consuming eddy currents are prevailed on to scramble the core and the permanent magnet resetting the core maybe Tesla left us a nice motionless generator.  Get rid of the coal and the fire and just go with eddy current heating of the core and cooling provided by cold water circulated through the keeper.  So many experiments to do and so little time.

Do you happen to have the patent number handy. I've gone through most of the electrical patents but have bypassed any that I saw where he was using mechanical devices. I don't remember seeing this one. It does look interesting and probably worth a read.
Thanks in advance.