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Started by nievesoliveras, December 21, 2008, 11:28:28 AM

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electricme

@Jesus,
Quote from: nievesoliveras on July 21, 2009, 09:38:41 AM
Thank you @electricme !
You are always welcome !

I will experiment to see if I can make the pulse motor to run just on capacitors. That would be great!

Jesus

Thank you for the most kind remarks, Jesus, its very welcome in this day and age.

I'm sure you will know all this below, I put it here just in case a newbe comes along and needs to know about it.

When using caps, you will have to work out the energy being supplied to fill them, verses the discharge etc etc.
Then there is a little matter of, the Ratios, time to fill verses the amount of voltage and amps.
It seems a cap will fill very fast if you supply it with enough energy, but if you only trickle it in to the cap, it will fill slow.
So how much energy does the circuit need to be self sustaining, will the charging impulse going to the series caps be able to keep up with a constant charge and discharge.

I think it will be a difficult thing to do, but not impossible.

Mabe a range of caps would doo the job, I mean, if you were looking at driving a 12v load from the output, then begin from there and work backwards. Think small first, then make it bigger if you can.

You would need a 16v cap in the middle, try something about 1,000uf or lower.
For the caps either side try 16v and about 10,000uf and higher.
Everything depends on the supply source and the demand

I think when the 3 caps are fully charged, when you take energy from the center cap, as the 2 outer caps are filled, then only the center cap will be filled.

I don't know, but would the energy in either of the outer caps, dribble over or spill over into a lower value cap to help the center cap recharge? after it has had a discharge?
If this occurs, then it would help the recharging process.
I hope you succeed with this Jesus

jim

@Cat, nice tripple neons you got there.

@All
I'm going to take a look at making a series earth cell battery soon, got to read up on this, some people say it is impossible, lets see it this is so or not.

This might be a good source of info, I saw this link on another forum, makes interesting reading.
http://www.4shared.com/file92366887/ad3b1e66/Free_Energy_-_Free_electricity_From_The_Earth.html

hooroo
jim
People who succeed with the impossible are mocked by those who say it cannot be done.

nievesoliveras

Quote from: dllabarre on July 21, 2009, 08:21:35 PM
Jesus

I'd like to duplicate your set up.

What is the value of D1 and Q1 in your circuit "STEP 3"?

On your motor, what size wire and how many turns each did you use?

What diameter is the coil of your motor?

Thank you,
DonL

Welcome @dllabarre !

D1 = Red LED
Q1 = 3904
Wire size = 30awg
Turns = 700 on each coil
The diameter of the coil is 3.75" pvc
The magnets must be big so they can trigger the transistor If not you need a reed switch or other device to trigger the transistor.

Jesus

nievesoliveras

@jeanna

Thank you for the theme change instructions.
Now the machine takes less time to show the page.

Jesus

nievesoliveras

Quote from: electricme on July 21, 2009, 10:13:25 PM
@Jesus,
Thank you for the most kind remarks, Jesus, its very welcome in this day and age.

I'm sure you will know all this below, I put it here just in case a newbe comes along and needs to know about it.

When using caps, you will have to work out the energy being supplied to fill them, verses the discharge etc etc.
Then there is a little matter of, the Ratios, time to fill verses the amount of voltage and amps.
It seems a cap will fill very fast if you supply it with enough energy, but if you only trickle it in to the cap, it will fill slow.
So how much energy does the circuit need to be self sustaining, will the charging impulse going to the series caps be able to keep up with a constant charge and discharge.

I think it will be a difficult thing to do, but not impossible.

Mabe a range of caps would doo the job, I mean, if you were looking at driving a 12v load from the output, then begin from there and work backwards. Think small first, then make it bigger if you can.

You would need a 16v cap in the middle, try something about 1,000uf or lower.
For the caps either side try 16v and about 10,000uf and higher.
Everything depends on the supply source and the demand

I think when the 3 caps are fully charged, when you take energy from the center cap, as the 2 outer caps are filled, then only the center cap will be filled.

I don't know, but would the energy in either of the outer caps, dribble over or spill over into a lower value cap to help the center cap recharge? after it has had a discharge?
If this occurs, then it would help the recharging process.
I hope you succeed with this Jesus

jim

@Cat, nice tripple neons you got there.

@All
I'm going to take a look at making a series earth cell battery soon, got to read up on this, some people say it is impossible, lets see it this is so or not.

This might be a good source of info, I saw this link on another forum, makes interesting reading.
http://www.4shared.com/file92366887/ad3b1e66/Free_Energy_-_Free_electricity_From_The_Earth.html

hooroo
jim

My first capacitors try was a failure.
I took three camera flash capacitors and put them in series parallel to the battery pack and waited it to fill.
After a while I retired the battery pack and the motor did stop after 2 to three seconds.

I will experiment some more with the new information.
Remember I am also a newbie.

Jesus

Pirate88179

Jesus:

Try supercaps.  You can get 10 Farad ones pretty cheap, about $6.00 ea.  They fill fast and output only as fast as the load on them demand, like a battery. It has been my contention that you, or Jim (or both) could charge up the caps to start with, and then both run and recharge them at the same time.  But, I believe it will take the use of supercaps.  (My opinion)

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen