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Started by nievesoliveras, December 21, 2008, 11:28:28 AM

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nievesoliveras

Quote from: Low-Q on February 21, 2009, 08:06:34 AM
Hi,

This looks very cool. Have you tried to replace the 1,5V battery with excess power from your system? You need a rectifier and a capacitor to make a smooth 1,5V supply by itself...
If you're able to make this motor work without the 1,5V battery, I would be more convinced. Sorry for being a sceptic. :-\

br.

Vidar

Thank you @lowq
Please explain with a schematic your point. It is very easy to say something negative without a schematic to prove what you are stating.
So please draw your suggestion on paint and if it is something with good base, I will try it.

Jesus

nievesoliveras

@all

I did stop the motor and put it back to work with the same batteries and the motor worked perfectly well.
So if you turn it off by disconnecting the pulse motor coil cable that goes to the positive coming from the charging batteries. The circuit begins to recharge the batteries without the extra load that the motor was.

It is working again now.

The next test is to see if the batteries are good to make a camera to work and for how long.
Remember that the problem was that the batteries charge was an illusory voltage with no power at all.

Jesus

nievesoliveras

@all

I did take the two batteries from the circuit. They both were from the charging pack. Each one has a voltage of 1.17v after three days of work.
I put them inside the camera and turn the camera on.  The camera this time did not turn on. The test that I did before at least turned the camera on.

So the conclusion that I posted before still holds.  The charge that this specific circuit gives to the batteries is an illusory voltage.
Even though the voltage is present it does not do any work.  But if you put them back on the circuit the motor works without any problem.

Jesus

Koen1

Quote from: nievesoliveras on February 21, 2009, 09:02:11 AM
Thank you @lowq
Please explain with a schematic your point.

I think his point is to try and make this into a closed loop.
How exactly he imagines to transform the higher voltage output down to 1.5V
using only a rectifier and a cap is unclear to me, but perhaps he is merely
suggesting that as a method to turn fluctuating output into DC input?

I do wonder whether this would run closed loop...
It seems sevral apparent ou circuits stopped functioning when the loop was closed.
I suspect some form of destructive quantum interference is causing the breakdown...

Fortunately, we don't really need to connect the output to the input directly...
If we can charge 2 batteries from 1, I imagine a setup with a minimum of
4 batteries: battery A and B get charged from battery C, while we use battery D
to power a load. Then by some method we measure the charge in the batteries,
and when batteries A and B are nearly full and C and D are nearly empty,
we switch their connections around so that now batteries C and D get charged
from battery A while we use battery B to power the load. Then we keep
repeating this.
That seems like an indirect method of looping the output... :)

regards,
Koen

nievesoliveras

Quote from: Koen1 on February 21, 2009, 09:29:42 AM
I think his point is to try and make this into a closed loop.
How exactly he imagines to transform the higher voltage output down to 1.5V
using only a rectifier and a cap is unclear to me, but perhaps he is merely
suggesting that as a method to turn fluctuating output into DC input?

I do wonder whether this would run closed loop...
It seems sevral apparent ou circuits stopped functioning when the loop was closed.
I suspect some form of destructive quantum interference is causing the breakdown...

Fortunately, we don't really need to connect the output to the input directly...
If we can charge 2 batteries from 1, I imagine a setup with a minimum of
4 batteries: battery A and B get charged from battery C, while we use battery D
to power a load. Then by some method we measure the charge in the batteries,
and when batteries A and B are nearly full and C and D are nearly empty,
we switch their connections around so that now batteries C and D get charged
from battery A while we use battery B to power the load. Then we keep
repeating this.
That seems like an indirect method of looping the output... :)

regards,
Koen

Thanks @koen1
That is the idea of the battery switch or the battery swapper. It is very difficult to implement but I have read somewhere that it has been done already. What we need to do is to find where it is and try to understand how they did it and if they would like to share the information.

Also we can begin to make some possible sketchs of the possible solution and keep modifying it according to what we have attained already experimenting.

Jesus