100% energy saver in the market

[AbbaRue]

An EASY way to test a device like this for free energy  technology would be to connect it
to an inverter and try running something off the inverter that would normally exceed the output.
If a 300 watt inverter can run a 1000 watt heater or hair dry then we have something here.

[helmut]

Yes, like Pese and others said, "fiddling" with el. energy consumption meters is equal to stealing. Period.
A robbery, if you like...
It is illegal action, and severely (!!!) prosecuted in most of the countries.

This "Bondee B4-88 Power saver" probably works as claimed (reducing your energy bill for a period of time). 
Again, like Pese said, this is as old as the billing of the energy consumption.

"ELECTRIC METERS MOVES BACKWARD!"
Lol, it means your "house" is acting like an energy producer/source (not consumer)... In a month or two, you'll know ALL the consequences...Not just the "I got Free electricity" part.....
You know, el.power companies are not stupid.  They can add 1+1=2.  All the losses are known, and backed up with nowadays computer (and a state of the art measuring) technology (power transportation/delivery/usage/losses/bills), it's not very hard to establish an "above normal leaky" grid....

"Made in Thailand" (sold worldwide)... Yes, I'd say this "method" still works nicely in some countries...

Messing with power-factor circuits (the tips and tricks) is just one of the more "profound" methods...



Of course, it's up to you to decide what your moral standards really are.

Any capable electrician knows many ways how to "cheat" electrical companies... In many ways...
I'd say there is a certain (small!) percentage of people who are doing it right now... (Who knows how many people were doing it in the past?)



Eventually, somebody has to pay for the goods. And the power companies ARE The Business...
Any losses (recognised or not) will be - eventually - paid by the consumers....

Normally, all the small "cheaters" are usually "sponsored" by the rest of the good people paying the electricity bills...
Cheers!

@Spinner
It is not that easy as you like to describe it.
It isf Fact, that if you employ a Capacitor in a circuit(Grid), it affects all the Net.
So the meters are adjustet for the standart situation.(optimal grid)
If the energy supplier made changes in his Grid, it affects all consumers on the line.
Not to much, but in a notable way.
The same effect happend, when a consumer connected devices on the grid.

helmut

[wizardofmars]

What I'm getting is that member gigawattgratis posted the device for exploration of its nature...in the event the device has some technology that could be used in a free energy device.

What I'm getting is that gigawattgratis posted just to pimp their website and try to sell some devices to suckers.

[nueview]

the problem here really seems to be an economic problem the grid costs a sertaint amount to build and maintain so since power companies sell amps they need to get a certain amount of money for each amp they sell in order to maintain there grid with more and more energy efficient products for sale the amount of amps they sell goes down and so they raise there rates in order to maintain the systemdriving higher and higher bills for those not buying more energy efficient products .
lets just say you come up with a free energy device and so how much energy you need becomes irrelavent then you would not need led lighting because the expence would not be worth it to you unless you had a small system and the cost of upgrading it would be more than the cost of the led lights you would now be making the same decision as most power companies make each and every day and theft of the system on either parties part is not to anyones benefit.
as to learning some things about energy from these devices that may be possible and worthwhile as some believe so this may be worth looking into as long as one does not cheat or steal from others the inverter system that was suggested seems to be a valed approach and could be worth the undertaking.

[hansvonlieven]

G'day all,

The device marketed by these crooks in Thailand is not new. It was invented just after the war in Germany and there were about 10.000 of these gadgets in existence until the authorities clamped down on the scam. The device was known as "Kleiner Gustav" (little Gustav). It was, as the device from Thailand is, a device that fraudulently manipulates the meter.

See: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=post;topic=6443.20;num_replies=23

Hans von Lieven