Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!

[Groundloop]

@Hoppy,

Thank you for taking time to answer my questions. I could also see some voltage gain with my
two coil pulse motor when tuned to very low current usage and ONLY when using two drained
12 volt 7 ampere batteries in series. When it happened the rotor slowed down and did stop after
a few minutes. Keep up the good work.

Groundloop.

[plengo]

@Hoppy,

I am very glad you are able to see this too. Today I only have been having bad moments. I changed my board trying to reduce the number of resistors and make it more compact preparing to make a real mica-board with parts solded but doing that I am not able to find that "second sweet" spot where the voltage rises only the "first sweet" spot where the voltage does not drop. So I am able to see two spots: first and second.

I am recording everything. I still have about 20 more videos to upload because at around video 20th or something is when I really had the voltage going up without any doubts that it was really working (at least for me).

With all that being said, one thing I would watch out for, which I did fall many times in the beginning of my research was that sometimes while I was trying to find the sweet spot and therefore changing the whole configuration (changing too many parameters) I would drain the battery but them I would find the "first sweet" spot (the one that only keeps the voltage steady) and the voltage would climb very fast giving the "false" impression that it was working. Indeed it was working but not perfectly. It was a combination of the battery not being used really (first spot - restoring the used energy back to the battery) and at the same time the battery resting to its stable voltage, giving in the end the idea that it was really climbing in voltage. Only the "second sweet" spot will do that, which I did record it camera very later (and only after that I really had courage to publish the videos so others could try it too).

That "second sweet" spot is very difficult to find it by measurement. Anything can change that, the board, the distance of the components, the wiring, the air, the day light, sun, moon you name it. It is sometimes very frustating, but at least now I know it does exists.

And concerning what you said about other motors, yes, I also agree with you. I have played a long time with the Adams motor (I have probably over 50 video logs but never publish neither I am planning to do it yet) and I notice the same phenomena too but it was very difficult to find it and repeat it neither was it believable. I was suspicious of it but only after gadedtmall published his findings I knew that it does exists. Now I know that this is what I had with my Adams motor.

@Groundloop,

Thank you for participating at this thread. You are a very valuable friend here. Thanks again for that board you sent (I still have not time for that research yet).

Fausto.

[gadgetmall]

@all  I want to thank everybody here working on this project .  I will be Building a Big one this summer and starting a new thread modifying window fans that you see in dollar stores for a few bucks . Once you guys get this one nailed down and realize i dont kid about this stuff i will move on to the next project .. . I have been in electronics a long time but lost most it from not using it .you guys are doing very good and almost got it and i love the fact that there are some very Smart People with good details being recorded open source . . I hope My second one runs like this one . I will be using some different parts . I found most of the stuff and circuits i make use pre 1970 Vintage electronics that you cant get anymore. I wonder why ?? those parts did something special and its hard to get stuff to do the things they do . .. Anyways im going to try a darlington on the next 48 volt mod and see where it goes . If one switching transistor works i bet two will work better with faster charging power and more speed . My fan Creeps and charges . . I have three projects to finish up for some people and then i can play again . thank you guys again .
Fausto . simplify the stuff if you have it to spare . some of my project fans everything was soldered to a cap even the pots . has anyone tried a zener diode on the base emmiter  reversed . i think this is what i got but i am not sure .possible the transistor is acting like a negistor ..?  I guess i will find out on number 2 48 volt fan .  you are so very close . . It might be just a winding or two that makes the difference . Like the JT Circuit .. on more loop will throw it out of tune  possible PF capacitance was making the difference on you proto board could be simulated with Pf caps  to get her rolling again .   /?.  ?
Gn
Gadget . 

[Hoppy]

@ Fausto

The 'second' sweet spot voltage rise is very convincing but we do need to ensure that the final charge voltage rises above the 'at rest' start voltage to be sure that the battery is in fact charging. Its very easy to miss recording this important piece of data when experimenting and its good that Groundloop raised this question. If I can see this happening I will be convinced but at the moment I feel we may be observing something very interesting but not necessarily a true charging situation that can be used practically by scaling up. I hope that you will be able to show us this important 'at rest' start voltage before you demo your 'sweet spot' battery charging in your later videos. I would suggest that we need to give our batteries at least four hours rest before taking this voltage measurement prior to filming the charging event.

Back to the bench!

Hoppy

[Goat]

@ Hoppy

Bedini mentioned the need to drain and recharge the batteries several times in order to achieve a shorter recharge time on the conditioned batteries, I'm not sure if it would be useful on this experiment being that there is only one battery involved but it might be worth a try.

Regards,
Paul