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My blueprint and white papers on my magnetism run generator

Started by btalex1990, January 09, 2009, 08:59:19 PM

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Paul-R

Quote from: hansvonlieven on January 09, 2009, 09:17:06 PM
Each magnet has a North and a South pole.
Yes, Hans, but the unwanted pole can be designed to be out
of the way, using various techniques like radial bar magnets
with all of one pole at the centre.
Paul.

jadaro2600

Monopole magnets are an interesting idea, but this require knowing how bipolar magnets are made.  Most companies keep their magnetization a secret - I imagine that it utilizes a fluctuating pulsed ac field for a duration followed by pulsed dc field then a continuous field with a simultaneous lowering of the temperature.   ..this would make the most sense - to create a tank circuit-like setup and then create the obvious reference field.

This highest quality magnets are subjected to a magnetic field in oder to gain the 'permanent' status.  In order to create a monopole, one would have to wind in on itself, the magnetic field.  Unless there's so great leap in understanding about poles, then one will simply create a magnet with north on the out side and south on the inside where explosion of the magnet is greater than would be on a standard magnet.

Forcing two poles together only results in a contortion of the already-present field, where; if north poles are outward, then south pole field lines are pushed further away from the longitudinal axis.  Suppression of this could be achieved through shielding BUT...If you understand how shielding works, then the shield simply conducts the field in a vector perpendicular to the magnetic field allowing it to return to the opposite pole via a different route.  No true shielding exists, only deflection.  Consider that most magnetic shielding is made out of ferromagnetic materials, and you see what I mean.

What your aiming for is a "monopole"?  ...then you can simply design whatever system to utilize the single pole?  The thing is, that one pole will adjoin lines with an opposite pole - these are actually vectors attempting to align through space to facilitate expenditure of energy. All systems tend towards entropy.

In your second posted link, the drawing indicates monopoles - the inner poles will attempt to align, however the outer poles will cross link or link as they normally would in a standard magnet - additionally, you have to consider that the centers of the 'monopole' will be linking or cross linking as well.

Why wouldn't you system work any differently without standard magnets?  In your setup, the poles furthest away and closes to each other will link - even if they're dissuaded by shielding.

btalex1990

Quote from: jadaro2600 on January 10, 2009, 10:26:35 AM
Monopole magnets are an interesting idea, but this require knowing how bipolar magnets are made.  Most companies keep their magnetization a secret - I imagine that it utilizes a fluctuating pulsed ac field for a duration followed by pulsed dc field then a continuous field with a simultaneous lowering of the temperature.   ..this would make the most sense - to create a tank circuit-like setup and then create the obvious reference field.

This highest quality magnets are subjected to a magnetic field in oder to gain the 'permanent' status.  In order to create a monopole, one would have to wind in on itself, the magnetic field.  Unless there's so great leap in understanding about poles, then one will simply create a magnet with north on the out side and south on the inside where explosion of the magnet is greater than would be on a standard magnet.

Forcing two poles together only results in a contortion of the already-present field, where; if north poles are outward, then south pole field lines are pushed further away from the longitudinal axis.  Suppression of this could be achieved through shielding BUT...If you understand how shielding works, then the shield simply conducts the field in a vector perpendicular to the magnetic field allowing it to return to the opposite pole via a different route.  No true shielding exists, only deflection.  Consider that most magnetic shielding is made out of ferromagnetic materials, and you see what I mean.

What your aiming for is a "monopole"?  ...then you can simply design whatever system to utilize the single pole?  The thing is, that one pole will adjoin lines with an opposite pole - these are actually vectors attempting to align through space to facilitate expenditure of energy. All systems tend towards entropy.

In your second posted link, the drawing indicates monopoles - the inner poles will attempt to align, however the outer poles will cross link or link as they normally would in a standard magnet - additionally, you have to consider that the centers of the 'monopole' will be linking or cross linking as well.

Why wouldn't you system work any differently without standard magnets?  In your setup, the poles furthest away and closes to each other will link - even if they're dissuaded by shielding.


I read what you said and ur right. I really don't know much about magnets. I just thought since north and positive repelled that I can run this generator since I used to have a magnet collection and had magnets repelled one another but when I turn them around or whatever I did as a child the magnets collided.

I do need to rethink magnets and then change my blueprints to suit my idea. So then maybe some of the people wouldn't laugh at me although it wasn't because of the north and south thing, they made fun of me because they thought my idea would never work, it goes against the laws of physics, and they all attacked me, well two forums attacked me and I may have been banned when I discuessed the idea.

Well a youtube video said on a austrialia news station he made a generator that broke the laws of physics and so how come I can be a failure from the start. We broke the laws of gravity. Someone also said my idea was like some magic generator like I'm some sort of magic nutcase that believes everythings magic.

I'm glad ur all mature here. You tell me whats wrong and I can improve on it instead of you saying I'm a troll, I'm some nutcase, or my ideas impossible.

I rather take criticism, or constructive criticism then insults. Many forums elsewhere (no offense) gives me nothing but insults and attacks and some dirty images but you don't do that here.

I will improve on it as much as I can until I have proof that it works or proof that my idea is really a dud.
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btalex1990

Thats it! I did the entire blueprints wrong unless I was plainning the generator to work through attraction.

North is against north.

South repels south.

So now I get it. I need to change them to a plan thats much more logical and yet good enough to work.

Thank you people, now I can definately make myself not look crazy because north doesn't repel postive, north repels north.
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jadaro2600

QuoteWell a youtube video said on a austrialia news station he made a generator that broke the laws of physics and so how come I can be a failure from the start. We broke the laws of gravity. Someone also said my idea was like some magic generator like I'm some sort of magic nutcase that believes everythings magic.

I'm glad ur all mature here. You tell me whats wrong and I can improve on it instead of you saying I'm a troll, I'm some nutcase, or my ideas impossible.

lol, you're no troll - and we all make mistakes.  Hopefully, i'm not coming off as a troll.  Generally speaking, your design will cause cross linking of the outermost magnet poles.

Quote from: btalex1990 on January 11, 2009, 06:16:39 AM
Thats it! I did the entire blueprints wrong unless I was plainning the generator to work through attraction.

North is against north.

South repels south.

So now I get it. I need to change them to a plan thats much more logical and yet good enough to work.

Thank you people, now I can definately make myself not look crazy because north doesn't repel postive, north repels north.

If you take a single magnet, and rotate longitudinal bars around this magnet ..picture a barrel and the lats of the barrel, as you have drawn in the prints.  rotating this barrel around the magnet will produce  usable current.  I don't know about anything being self driven though.  Keep trying.  It's called a barrel type homopolar or unipolar generator, aka, an axial homopolar / unipolar generator.

Searching google books for these devices will yield several complete volumes / books within which these are described in detail.

As for the magnets, if you push two together, the field lines as the junction are push outward radially - saying you have two round magnets in repulsion - your inner poles become stronger further away from the center axis than they normally would.  Just the opposite, if you bring two unlike poles close together, at their ends, radial magnetic field strength decreases as they depart from linking to their opposite ends while simultaneously, those far-end poles begin to link as the two form one larger single magnetic field.

take two linked magnets and bend them apart so that they're sitting next to each other - they shouldn't span back together or fly apart because the pull on each of the poles is equal, what's more intriguing, if you have a large round magnet and place a small round magnet on it, it will not want to stay vertical near the edges while in the center it will be fine; this is because the overall magnetic field is in less of an equilibrium around the periphery of the larger disk than it is in the middle RELATIVE to the smaller magnet. ... have two like sized magnets, and they'll want to align.

Furthermore, if you have three round disk magnets and you can get the three to stick to one another on their rims; if you push two of these together, they're going to repel.  the shape you're trying to create is basically the head of mickey mouse... hold the head and try to move one ear closer to another.

http://physics.technion.ac.il/~rutman/jeremy%27s%20seminar.html has some interesting information. Also, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halbach_array.