Hard Look at Stan Meyer Patent

[Room3327]

Hi I am new and would just like to add a little to this discussion.  I also have been studying the Stanley Meyers patent and IMO there is a major point of his that is little talked about here, at least that I can find.  And that is, he says very clearly that his process of splitting water is voltage dependant and not current dependant.  In other words he is using High Voltage instead of high current to split the water.  The purpose of the VIC circuit was to minimize current and increase the voltage.  When we say increase the voltage he was talking > 40,000 Volts across the water fuel cell.  To accomplish this his transformer stepped up the input voltage driving a bifilar wound HV coil ( thousands of turns ).  This bifilar coil is built as a flyback transformer and operates with the pulses applied to the primary winding, because of how this all works it can all be put on one core, as long as all coils proper polarity is observed.  When pulsed the output of the flyback + and - go in opposite directions, doubling the flyback voltage. That is, if each coil has a 20,000 volt flyback voltage then total voltage is 40,000 volts across the cell.  That is all that the VIC is, what it does and how it works.  Stanley was using very high voltage (40,000 volts) and low current (5ma). Now I have found that water fuel cells don't work well on AC voltage they work much better on DC therefore the diode in Stanley's patent. So what about the resonance he mentions, it can only be running the VIC transformer at its resonance to keep input current to a minimum.  All of what he was doing was minimizing total current and total power usage. I would also like to mention that the patent drawing of the VIC shows an incorrect connection of the bifilar coil it will not work connected as shown.

I hope this helps and maybe clarifies some things for all.
Room3327

[Room3327]

PS Sood,
      A good core to build a VIC on would be a color TV flyback transformer core, and there are a lot available right now.  I would also like to mention that at the voltage levels I am talking about a bifilar coil really won't do. Because the two output leads are side by side the magnet wire insulation wont handle the voltage between them so it really should be split into 2 HV windings on the same core.  Special care needs to be taken with the windings to be able to handle the HV and I would recommend the output leads to the cell are made of Auto ignition wire.

Room3327

[Garfield]

Soodesune:
   Haven't done any picture posting before, but will give it a shot.
1st one is the 4.5 volt p-p square-wave source voltage.
2nd is the wave-forms on the capacitor plates. Measured p-p is 44 volts.
3rd is the wave-forms with only a single resonant coil in one leg. Again voltage is 44 p-p.
Bottom trace is 7 volts p-p which I think is just stray hum pickup.
I am using a 680pf capacitor to simulate the wfc. frequency on all is 23 KHZ.

[Garfield]

Had to delete pictures as they were too big for screen. Will do over again so keep checking.

[CrazyEwok]

here is a thought that i haven't seen considdered... Using the concept of a Tesla Coil to step up the voltage... having a large outter coil and then the middle being a chain of bifilar coils running up the center... i haven't seen it tested or even ran in reverse (bifilar on teh outside) be interesting to say the least. Find out which end of your recieving coil is + and - and attach them straight to your electrodes should be high voltage at the least. Then all you have to do is pulse the delivery coil with different frequencys and such should almost harmonize itself... in theory...