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Israel uses the deadly depleted Uranium to bomb Gaza strip !

Started by hartiberlin, January 12, 2009, 04:12:59 PM

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utilitarian

Depleted uranium is not radioactive.  At all.  That is why it is called depleted.  It is used in armor piercing shells.  I actually doubt they are using it because the opposition is not using armor.

WilbyInebriated

Quote from: utilitarian on January 12, 2009, 11:33:43 PM
Depleted uranium is not radioactive.  At all.  That is why it is called depleted.  It is used in armor piercing shells.  I actually doubt they are using it because the opposition is not using armor.

bull shit, use your hallowed wiki before you post such crap, take a chemistry class...
"Depleted uranium (DU) is uranium primarily composed of the isotope uranium-238 (U-238). Natural uranium is about 99.27 percent U-238, 0.72 percent U-235, and 0.0055 percent U-234. U-235 is used for fission in nuclear reactors and nuclear weapons, natural uranium is enriched in U-235 by separating the isotopes by mass. The byproduct of enrichment, called depleted uranium or DU, contains less than one third as much U-235 and U-234 as natural uranium. Because U-234 accounts for about half the radioactivity of natural uranium, the external radiation dose from DU is about 60 percent of that from the same mass of natural uranium.

Depleted uranium munitions are controversial because of unanswered questions about potential long-term health effects. DU is less toxic than other heavy metals such as arsenic and mercury, and is only very weakly radioactive because of its long half-life.[4] While any radiation exposure has risks, no conclusive epidemiological data have correlated DU exposure to specific human health effects such as cancer.[5] However, studies using cultured cells and laboratory rodents continue to suggest the possibility of leukemogenic, genetic, reproductive, and neurological effects from chronic exposure.[6] In addition, the UK Pensions Appeal Tribunal Service in early 2004 attributed birth defect claims from a February 1991 Gulf War combat veteran to depleted uranium poisoning.[7][8] A 2005 epidemiology review concluded: "In aggregate the human epidemiological evidence is consistent with increased risk of birth defects in offspring of persons exposed to DU."[9]"


60% idiot
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Pirate88179

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on January 13, 2009, 01:16:14 AM
bull shit, use your hallowed wiki before you post such crap, take a chemistry class...
"Depleted uranium (DU) is uranium primarily composed of the isotope uranium-238 (U-238). Natural uranium is about 99.27 percent U-238, 0.72 percent U-235, and 0.0055 percent U-234. U-235 is used for fission in nuclear reactors and nuclear weapons, natural uranium is enriched in U-235 by separating the isotopes by mass. The byproduct of enrichment, called depleted uranium or DU, contains less than one third as much U-235 and U-234 as natural uranium. Because U-234 accounts for about half the radioactivity of natural uranium, the external radiation dose from DU is about 60 percent of that from the same mass of natural uranium.

Depleted uranium munitions are controversial because of unanswered questions about potential long-term health effects. DU is less toxic than other heavy metals such as arsenic and mercury, and is only very weakly radioactive because of its long half-life.[4] While any radiation exposure has risks, no conclusive epidemiological data have correlated DU exposure to specific human health effects such as cancer.[5] However, studies using cultured cells and laboratory rodents continue to suggest the possibility of leukemogenic, genetic, reproductive, and neurological effects from chronic exposure.[6] In addition, the UK Pensions Appeal Tribunal Service in early 2004 attributed birth defect claims from a February 1991 Gulf War combat veteran to depleted uranium poisoning.[7][8] A 2005 epidemiology review concluded: "In aggregate the human epidemiological evidence is consistent with increased risk of birth defects in offspring of persons exposed to DU."[9]"


60% idiot

I have machined depleted uranium parts for several military research applications and I am still here.  As it is said above many heavy metals are far more dangerous.  Depleted uranium is depleted..end of story.  The drywall in your house has more radioactivity than this stuff.  The damn mercury in these stupid cfls poses more of a danger to folks.  Now, if Israel were dropping cfls over there, I would then be concerned.  The misinformation about DU began years ago in the US press and it still goes on today.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

WilbyInebriated

Quote from: Pirate88179 on January 13, 2009, 02:18:23 AM
I have machined depleted uranium parts for several military research applications and I am still here.  As it is said above many heavy metals are far more dangerous.  Depleted uranium is depleted..end of story.  The drywall in your house has more radioactivity than this stuff.  The damn mercury in these stupid cfls poses more of a danger to folks.  Now, if Israel were dropping cfls over there, I would then be concerned.  The misinformation about DU began years ago in the US press and it still goes on today.

Bill

of course bill, you weren't breathing an aerosol... nor are you giving birth (i hope  ;) )... i never said it would kill you did i?
http://www.ehjournal.net/content/4/1/17
and 60% is the low estimate, taking into account only the alpha emissions. what of its daughter isotopes? thorium -234 and protactinium -234? did you consider the beta and gamma emissions of these being added to the alpha emissions of the u -238? sure it has a half life of billions of years, but that is not what we are talking about, we are talking about du being pyrophoric and creating an aerosol when used as a projectile.

its NOT depleted, end of story.

edit: who needs to deal with all the global backlash of killing people when you can screw with their reproductive capabilities and in a generation or two or three there is no one left to oppose you...
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hansvonlieven

G'day all,

I think we have a bit of a misunderstanding here.

Mildly radioactive substances may be completely harmless when handled. Take Tritium for instance, a form of hydrogen. Tritium oxide is a radioactive form of water. You could swim in it and it would do you no harm. Breathe the vapour or drink the shit and you die, just a question of how much you ingested and how long it'll take before you are dead.

The reason, there is not enough radioactivity present to penetrate the skin.

The same I should imagine with depleted Uranium. You could get away probably with eating it, it would pass through your system before it could do any real harm. Breathing in the particles is a different proposition altogether. Any dust you breathe in is not readily eliminated from the lungs, if at all. There has to be a hazard there.

I do not trust the re-assurances of governments when it comes to questions of their treasured weaponry. They had soldiers standing with their backs to an atmospheric atomic explosion in tests at Maralinga during the 50's and told them there was nothing harmful in this. Even at that time the Australian and British governments knew different.

So don't trust them when they say it is harmless. Remember Agent Orange?

Hans von Lieven
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