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Magnetic "Free Energy" designs released - finally!

Started by PaulLowrance, January 17, 2009, 02:06:01 PM

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Ergo

Quote from: PaulLowrance on January 22, 2009, 02:36:10 PM
The mathematics for the magnetic research has shown it's most likely very difficult to overcome the losses.

That's funny. You blame me for being "a neg" when I simply told you that you don't know all the variables yet,
and therefore you cannot (in all logic sense) have compiled a successful mathematical Overunity Fomula.
Now you've said it yourself "most likely very difficult" and this nails it. Your statement of having found
and released "Free Energy designs" by your own "imaginary" formula was all wrong from the beginning.
Please test and verify your claims by actual hardware before making any OU statements in the future.
That will save us all some time so we can focus on stuff that really matters.

PaulLowrance

Quote from: Ergo on January 22, 2009, 04:29:44 PM
Now you've said it yourself "most likely very difficult" and this nails it. Your statement of having found
and released "Free Energy designs" by your own "imaginary" formula was all wrong from the beginning.
No, I use math equations from conventional physics. BTW, you said a lot more than that. You went on and on how I have nothing, zilch, and on and on. You even threw in some doubt about my diode research. You offer me know harm what so ever. It's only society that you harm.



Quote from: Ergo on January 22, 2009, 04:29:44 PMPlease test and verify your claims by actual hardware before making any OU statements in the future.
Please don't tell me what to do. I have every right to post information. The math for this Free Energy design #1 is very clear. I was correct about the diode arrays. I would not have made the claim if it were not a guarantee that Free Energy design #1 would work.


Quote from: Ergo on January 22, 2009, 04:29:44 PMThat will save us all some time so we can focus on stuff that really matters.
What might that be, your hand waving style of physics? That's not science.


PL

PaulLowrance

Since my predictions have all come true so far, I'll make another. That *nobody* will build my any of my Free Energy design. :)  The same old tactics, which consists of a few people pretending to show some interest, saying or insinuating they're going to build it, but nothing happens. In my diode thread in this forum and in my personal message folder there are about a half dozen people who said they'll replicate my diode array. LOL, as expected nothing happened. Trust me, you're not hurting me in the slightest. I don't get my feelings hurt, ever. I am here to give of myself, service to others, and I have infinite patience, and will slowly but surely succeed.  :)

PL

PaulLowrance

Tak22 sent me a private message showing a magnetic viscosity meter -->
http://www.geophyz.com/

One problem with that meter is that you can't control the magnetic field strength, which makes a huge difference on the magnetic lag. These type of meters typically use small magnetic fields.

PL

Craigy

Quote from: PaulLowrance on January 22, 2009, 01:06:13 AM
Hi Craigy,
It's not possible to know how much energy is exchanged during Magnetocaloric effect from just a change in temperature. One would also need to know the change in specific heat capacity due to the change in magnetic field, which would make a significant difference at ambient temperature (so-called thermal equilibrium). Lets consider an example of magnetic material below Curie temperature at ambient temperature. When the magnetic field is applied, potential energy is released, but most (not all) of such energy goes into various areas such as the lattices, magnetocrystalline anisotropy, etc. Even though there's a significant release of potential energy with the increase in applied magnetic field, most of it's not translated into a change in temperature. If Steorn said the equated energy from Magnetocaloric effect is insufficient, and they made no reference to taking sensitive specific heat capacity measurements, then such information is unfortunately meaningless.

I'm not sure what type of device you're describing there. If the device captures energy from ambient thermal energy per cycle, then it would definitely violate the 2nd laws of thermodynamics.


We must be talking about two different devices. In reference to my Free Energy devices (1 through 3), they would produce continuous power 24 hours per day, 365 days per year at any hospitable location on Earth while *not* requiring any macro scale temperature gradients. That is called a perpetual motion machine of the 2nd kind, and clearly violates the 2nd laws of thermodynamics.  May I ask what device you were referring to?


PL
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Sorry Paul , i didn´t want to take this thread off topic, and you are right in that i was speculating to my Dr. of physics about the steorn orbo and whether magneto calorific effects were playing a part in its operation, i guess the jury is out on that score..the main focas of the debate was on what happens in a magnet to magnet transaction with helpings sv. When i look at your designs , i see a lot of similar questions although you are using an oncoming field from a coil rather than an approaching magnet...I am thinking of investigating a little further when time permits.
> Now if we have removed the field quickly enough that we have escaped quicker than the sv lag time.( time in seconds required by material to return to retentivity ) the domains are in the stressed state that they were in before , but now there is no field to help them return to retentivity, so the magnets will reverse the magneto calorific effect, i.e. it will suck in thermal energy from the surroundings to enable the material to return to retentivity.
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> . Here is a good analogy. When you orientate all those domains in one direction, you have put some structure into the material. Thermodynamics lets you quantify the heat consequences of this using the concept of entropy. More entropy corresponds to more disorder, less entropy to more structure. A relevant analogy is an ice cube in a glass of water.  The ice cube is chemically the exact same stuff as the water, but it is structured. (just like the domains in the ferromagnet) The water molecules will do their normal thing threshing around due to the effects of heat, and as they collide with the structure of the ice cube, they knock bits off it until the whole thing is reduced back to water again. When all is said and done, the glass contains only water. But without some outside influence, the temperature of the water is colder than it was before the water worked on the ice cube. By destroying the structure, the water has become colder â€" heat has been taken out of it.   
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> Going back to the analogy of the ferromagnet, the heat energy in the solid vibrates all the molecules around and gradually disorganizes them. So quite spontaneously, the material relaxes back to its starting state, but when this is all over the material is a little colder. If you want to do this again, you have to supply some heat. In an experiment with an Orbo, currents of air in the room could easily provide enough heat to reset the material so that after a short while it could repeat the Sv transaction all over again. You made the good observation above that the initial approach of the magnet will generate some heat. This will be balanced by the loss of heat when the material relaxes after the departure of the magnet.
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> I have an intuition that because of hysteresis, the cooling effect may not be as much as the original heating effect. In other words, the material has actually heated up slightly by the magnet coming in fast and going out slow. We actually lose energy overall.
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The trouble with Steorn's experiments is, that only a tiny amount of heat can make a huge amount of mechanical energy. (I remember that you have one of those little demonstration Carnot cycle engines, which start running when you put your finger on them.) So in order to keep track of the accounting between heat and mechanical energy, you have to be quite fanatical in watching out for the tiniest temperature difference.
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