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Captain Hans Coler (Kohler) Magnetstromapparat (Magnet Power Apparatus)

Started by Michelinho, January 24, 2009, 09:12:26 PM

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Michelinho


Hi everyone,

Here is a picture of one setup I am currently testing, I don't expect much improvement since all the magnets are not the same size and strength and not touching the iron bars. 2 of those were from old phone generator system.

Today I plan on making the coil winder setup for the new magnets and after the coils are done, a new series of tests.

* Those who are in need of magnet wire, there are some nice ones in computer monitors, the degaussing coils. (Looks like AWG 26 or 28)

Take care all,

Michel

@ Hans,

The article was only for general info. Germany was just as bad after WW1 because of the Versailles Treaty. So the general public probably used those wires for a good while. As for Captain Hans Kohler, I am sure he had special privilege because of his status.

smoky

Guys just my 2 cents worth on this..the older magnets uses to produce a lot of "Barkhausen noise". 
Colers configuration may have been arranged to series add this internal noise from one magnet into the next. By winding and connecting, he might have been able to "bring into phase the frequency components" to produce a coherent output voltage. 

With toroidal structure I think output can be DC whilst inducing currents are DC.

Good luck.

Michelinho

Quote from: smoky on March 23, 2009, 03:56:14 PM
Guys just my 2 cents worth on this..the older magnets uses to produce a lot of "Barkhausen noise". 
Colers configuration may have been arranged to series add this internal noise from one magnet into the next. By winding and connecting, he might have been able to "bring into phase the frequency components" to produce a coherent output voltage. 

With toroidal structure I think output can be DC whilst inducing currents are DC.

Good luck.

When I started this project, I came across references to the Barkhausen effect, so naturally I did a little reading on the subject. Lucky for us we now have oscilloscopes. It does help in tuning and signal analysis.

Work on this might just get done a lot faster, I have a new helper. Meet Sophie.

Take care,

Michel


smoky

In the Coler circuit, the meter depicted at the top could in fact be the circuit shown at bottom right of the diagram.
Where U represents the actual Coler device.
 
It seems to be a big positive feedback loop circuit, where the signal arriving at the inductor (as part of the meter circuit) would likely be 180 degrees out of phase at each side.  So if signal passes thru a certain number of magnet coil assemblies on it's way, there's a certain phase delay occurs at each magnet coil unit (eg if there were 3 magnet coil assemblies to pass thru it's likely that there's a phase shift of  180/3 = 60 degrees shift each at the predominatnt freq.

This way also, a signal travelling right around the loop arrives back at any magnet in phase again to push the oscillation/noise at the right time to enhance it.
Wondering if there's Iron wire used for coil wraps around magnets as it could be the BH hysteresis curve of the wire which saturates & finally collapses giving current pulses?

Probably need's a low freq. Spectrum Analyser to see the main fundamental if any, sticking up out of the noise level. 

Apologies for speculation.


Michelinho


Hi smokey,

QuoteApologies for speculation.

No apologies needed since I am too speculating a lot still.  :)

The first 2 magnets/coils of each phase could be working in a push/pull configuration and the third magnet/coil rectifying the output signal. The last schematic Rys.4 on the diagram is if I read correctly the British papers a test apparatus.

I will have 3 setups to test and compare; the present one, the other will use similar magnets but bigger and more powerful with bigger coils (probably bifilar), I just finish the coil winder for those. The last setup made up of 6 "U" magnets with coils (bifilar) on each side. I may try a variant if I get higher output and that might take the shape of Ed. Leedskalnin Permanent Magnetic Holders in an hexagonal formation with an additional bifilar coil on the keeper.

Don't stop speculating, it may hold the answer, we never know what the brain can output facing an elusive problem.

Take care,

Michel