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Real OU-Effect to Share with everyone!!!

Started by Magnethos, February 02, 2009, 08:37:03 PM

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alan

then pls tell us what your definition is of overunity.
Is it this: only if the form of energy is the same, and the energy produced is in excess over energy needed?

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I stated that the energy captured in the secondary capacitor (30uF) was a different form of energy thus allowing it to be continually amplified to produce more work then the energy used to capture it.
this is the effect we are all looking for, simple as that: more energy out than in, doesn't need to have a definition like OU.
Or do you mean it is an energy collector, in which the work (in Joules total) that it can perform is equal to all the energy 'packets' put in (Joules per pulse)? Then indeed no OU.

this different form of energy, is it negative energy, such as bedini was capturing?
is it really in excess over the dissipated input energy?
how to render it useful?

first comes observation, then replication, then confirmation, then analysis and explanation of its nature, (then product engineering?).
let "us" first make the correct and desired observations. :)

best regards

capthook

Quote from: NRGFromTheVacuum on March 06, 2009, 11:23:03 PM
Read what you circled "achieved COP CAN reach >1"

Parsing words?

2 more examples of your OU claims:

"get electrical energy for free!  You can now take the circuit in this video and use it to continuously charge the battery"

A claim of overunity and perpetual motion (self-running/charging)


"This video shows how the electricity collected in the capacitor has more energy then the energy used from the battery to generate that electricity"

ANOTHER claim of overunity.

But now you are stating your latest video ISN'T OU because your switching isn't fast enough or the wire isn't right.
So what of your claims from the first 2 videos??
(obviously you were confused about capacitors and the difference between voltage and charge)

Fool me once.... etc.....................

Magnethos

Maybe we're a little confusing here because NRG is using 2 kinds of DIFFERENT energies.

He talks about that could be possible to achieve COP > 1, but some people say that COP is not possible.

I think we need to think the situation observing the 2 kinds of energies (Electromagnetic energy from the battery and the Dirac Sea Holes, Radiant energy¿?, etc...)

NRG uses Electromagnetic energy from the battery to ACTIVATE the circuit. Once the circuit is activated, then the negentropic effect starts and the capacitors are full of RADIANT energy. So, if we look at the ElectroMagnetic energy, there is not amplification because that EMag energy was wasted to produce the negentropic effect. But the radiant energy he has stored in the cap, has more energy to do more work.
So, there is an energy amplification because using very EMag energy, he can produce a 2nd kind of energy that can produce more work. In this case, a special case of OU is proved.

BUT, he hasn't achieved OU because that EMag energy was wasted and hasn't been amplified to more EMag energy.

He said that he CAN reach COP > 1 because the system he use is not perfect (he use copper wire and hand switching, so maybe he is drawing a little of power from the battery instead pure voltage). But using the correct wire and the correct switching time, anyone can draw pure voltage, so, the COP > 1 will be possible.

The problem here is we haven't enough tools to measure the relaxation time. But the theory is correct.

So, I think there is OU effect from ElectroMagnetic to Radiant, but not from EMag to Emag.

Magnethos

I explained something similar based on NRG system.

Extracting pure voltage from the battery, charge the caps with that electrostatic scalar potential and then amplify it and transform it to electromagnetic energy.

The REAL Tesla Coil (not the Olivier Lodge coil we know as Tesla's Coil), was an energy amplifier and worked in a similar way. The coil produced pure voltage continously, extracting that radiant energy from the vacuum. Then, that Radiant Energy was transformed into Electromagnetic energy without discharging the main source of Radiant energy.

For that reason Tesla said that everywhere in the universe we can get all the energy we want. Electrostatic energy is everywhere, but not Electromagnetic. We can extract all the Electrostatic energy we want from a battery, but if we want to extract Electromagnetic energy, then we won't can extract all the energy we want, because the EMag energy is limited to the amount of amperes. But electrostatic scalar potential is infinite and can be transformed to Emag energy.

alan

How do you make radiant energy to do work, or how to create EM from it?
With what does it interact?

What happens when RE is put onto a stator coil? Does it induct a magnetic field?