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ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

Started by Tito L. Oracion, February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM

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Dave45

I have been playing with the idea of winding coils with either a cw or ccw direction with multiple layers
It can be done one layer at a time cut the wire then wind the next layer cut the wire and so on
then the layers can be connected in series or parallel

When a coil is wound in the normal back and forth layers one winding will be cw then the next winding will be ccw and so on as each layer is wound, does this effect the system, I would think it would when we are trying to collect energy that is moving in one direction and angular momentum.

lancaIV

Fine Mr.Oracion, stay as you are. :)
Many waves leaving Romes(I,II,III,...).

Greetings
                  CdL

lancaIV

Quote from: gyulasun on August 19, 2012, 12:56:55 PM
Lanca, thanks for the kind reply.

Yes many many things have been already known (invented) in the past lifetimes, during the centuries.  This Patten patent is a clever implemantation of driving an electromagnet from AC current, to prevent the magnetic poles from changing as per the AC current would dictate and this was a novel way of doing it in the era when the DC 'world' was still alive and electromagnets were operated from DC sources. 
I would like to understand what prompted you to mention this double coil electromagnet here, in connection with Dave45's postings?  Because Dave described two trifilar coil setup and we are here to figure out extra energy and unfortunately I fail to connect your dots...  could you hint some explanations?
The mechanical transmission gear with the 4 motor's torque summed into a single shaft is also a good solution, it can reduce power consumption but again I fail to see any other advantage. OF course, reduced power input is always a benefit, I agree.

Greetings,
Gyula

PS: we have hot weather with 33-34°C and it is forecast for next week too.

Hello Gyula,
Patten 1890 basic : 2 coils for revolving alternating field on a core/ partial in  concept.
Listend for understanding.

Hyun Labs mosaics : +1 coil and as 2 overlapping Deltastars configuration-set : 
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=AU&NR=2004227000A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20041202&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP
             
2x 'Delta Star 'Target :   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larmor_precession
                                         http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabi_cycle
                                        Zeeman-effect
                                        Nukleare Spin-resonanz     
                                        DC-Kerr   AC-Kerr

Dave45 shows us only a "poor man nuclear reactor" working as same as a 'quantum spinning centrifuge'.

A professional view and description: http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19840905&CC=EP&NR=0117255A1&KC=A1


Sincerely
                 CdL


p.s.: Dr.Pavel Imris ,CSc is qualified nuclear physician and I only a learner by myself
http://faculty.knox.edu/cschulz/M%C3%B6ssbauer/theory.htm

AC-Kerr effect : optics ergo a "spectro generator"    or  "Moessbauer generator"

TinselKoala

Quote from: Dave45 on August 20, 2012, 09:25:54 AM
I have been playing with the idea of winding coils with either a cw or ccw direction with multiple layers
It can be done one layer at a time cut the wire then wind the next layer cut the wire and so on
then the layers can be connected in series or parallel

When a coil is wound in the normal back and forth layers one winding will be cw then the next winding will be ccw and so on as each layer is wound, does this effect the system, I would think it would when we are trying to collect energy that is moving in one direction and angular momentum.

When a coil is wound in the normal "back and forth" layers.... you never reverse direction, you are always winding either CW or CCW. Point the thumb of your hand along the wire and watch which way your fingers curl. Slide your hand along the wire, you will find that the "curl" of your fingers is always in the same direction. Or simply watch what direction you turn the crank of your coil winder... you never reverse it, each layer, back and forth, is wound in the same direction.

If you take a long wire and double it by folding it at the center, so both ends are in your hand and the fold is at the distance... then wind this onto a form, you will have a coil that "reverses sense" because if you do the thumb and fingers trick again you will see that the sense of curvature of your fingers reverses at the fold. This form of winding is called "hairpin bifilar" and is a good way to make a non-inductive or reduced inductance coil, as the "fingers" of one half counteract the "fingers" of the other half. You can cut the wire at the fold, and now you can make a true Tesla bifilar winding out of it by taking the "fold" end of one wire and connecting it to the free end of the other wire. Now, once again your "sense" is the same all the way around, either CW or CCW, but you will have increased energy storage in inter-winding capacitance.

Magluvin

Quote from: TinselKoala on August 20, 2012, 06:16:35 PM
When a coil is wound in the normal "back and forth" layers.... you never reverse direction, you are always winding either CW or CCW. Point the thumb of your hand along the wire and watch which way your fingers curl. Slide your hand along the wire, you will find that the "curl" of your fingers is always in the same direction. Or simply watch what direction you turn the crank of your coil winder... you never reverse it, each layer, back and forth, is wound in the same direction.

If you take a long wire and double it by folding it at the center, so both ends are in your hand and the fold is at the distance... then wind this onto a form, you will have a coil that "reverses sense" because if you do the thumb and fingers trick again you will see that the sense of curvature of your fingers reverses at the fold. This form of winding is called "hairpin bifilar" and is a good way to make a non-inductive or reduced inductance coil, as the "fingers" of one half counteract the "fingers" of the other half. You can cut the wire at the fold, and now you can make a true Tesla bifilar winding out of it by taking the "fold" end of one wire and connecting it to the free end of the other wire. Now, once again your "sense" is the same all the way around, either CW or CCW, but you will have increased energy storage in inter-winding capacitance.

Well what would be the use of a coil that has little inductance? ;]  A non inductive resistor? ;]

I think what Dave is thinking is, 2 coils on a toroid or straight inline, one wound one direction and the other in line, wound in the other direction, coils connected in the middle, and driven in the middle with a pulsed primary, like TC but primary in the middle. We are thinking that the direction of the 'electrical' fields, one coil in one direction and the other in the opposite direction, but the magnetic fields of each coil in attraction, not opposing, where the coil ends meet, may have some unique effects here.

Like I said above, the Utkin pdf seems to imply that this configuration produces a self oscillating, self building oscillation, of which needs spark gap regulation so the self building oscillation doesnt get out of hand.  :o   Dass wot we thinkins.  ;D

So were gunna mess with it. ;]

MaGs