ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

[gyulasun]

Hi Folks,

Member Qwert has made I think an interesting observation on earlier posts from Tito, see previous page:
http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg353368/#msg353368

I believe he has collected the core of Tito's findings and Tito has not reacted on it yet, maybe just because he already has a new born baby and busy or he does not comment on purpose...  LOL

What do you think?

Gyula

[Magluvin]

Hi Folks,

Member Qwert has made I think an interesting observation on earlier posts from Tito, see previous page:
http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg353368/#msg353368

I believe he has collected the core of Tito's findings and Tito has not reacted on it yet, maybe just because he already has a new born baby and busy or he does not comment on purpose...  LOL

What do you think?

Gyula

Tito first laid claim that the Igniter pat held the answers. The igniter works on the same principals as the Ozone circuit.  The capacitor is charged very 'efficiently' to a higher voltage than the input voltage. So being that we know that 'efficiently' doesnt necessarily mean OU, I guess the advantage would have to be that we raised the voltage potential that conventionally is very close to the same amount of energy as taken from the source.  Is it?

Is there an advantage to having 1kwh at 100v than 10kwh at 10v? Where is the OU?

RLC. How do we derive more power from an RLC without killing the oscillation 'and' get more out than in??

We are missing at least 1 ingredient, if OU exists. All the things we do know as experimenters in this 'industry' would benefit greatly with this mysterious ingredient.

Mags

[Kev]

Yes. Unless.

Its easy to say. Unless.  Unless.  It sounds funny when you say it too many times.

What is an amplifier?  Well, the ones I am familiar with, only come 'close' to Pout being equal, let alone greater, than Pin. And these are real world amplifiers, whether they be RF, audio or even just a relay. A relay is an "amplifier". But in each case, there needs to be a 'power source' capable of greater than the desired output, even though the input 'signal' that we want to replicate at higher voltage and amperage, is small.

So when you say 'we amplify it', you are talking about a totally different kind of amplification than we are familiar with. But, I understand what you mean.
You sound quite sure of it.  But if this is as much as you can tell us, then nothing will be accomplished except words on a screen.

So ok, we make the circuit you presented. Then we 'amplify it.  Hmm, well why is does it seem to be a requirement to use 'this' type of circuit as an input, when maybe we could just use a large cap, that should be able to be replenished by the 'amplified output? It wouldnt take much to 'generate' an initial charge to get things going. In fact a shake flashlight or a small hand crank generator will build a charge faster than the 'circuit'.

Was just wondering about that. 

Anyways, if you have any 'amplifier' circuits for us to see, Im sure everyone would be very appreciative.    Otherwise, like I said above, its easy to 'say' "Amplify it", without a requisite of OU.

Mags

Thanks for understanding!
but I didn't achieve anything yet in amplifying.
I came across this video about Bi-toroid transformer but not sure if it's true  : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVYiT4zK9Kc
He claims %377 overunity

[romerouk]

@Magluvin
''Is there an advantage to having 1kwh at 100v than 10kwh at 10v? Where is the OU?''


It is a big advantage in running at higher voltage, first because power from the 'air' is in that range then to create a resonant system with high voltage will require small value capacitors that means cheaper comparing with a resonant system running at 10v where we will need large capacitance. Tuning and stability is much better with high voltage.
''RLC. How do we derive more power from an RLC without killing the oscillation 'and' get more out than in?? ''
Should run the main coil(sender) with sharp pulses and not in resonance and larger gap in between pulses, the resonance comes into action after each pulse and in between the main and output coil or only in the output coil.

Romero

[forest]

I tend to disagree.....Look what Tesla is looking for during many years. An efficient make&break interrupter.
If just by using HV capacitor OU could essentially pop up then we would not discuss Tito method here so long!

I cracked what the problem is with HV, and we were silly to not counting this factor as a crucial one. Please, now consider it. Tesla always used HV WITH POWER behind ! Even if he used HV capacitors with capacitance similiar to those used today he had a bank of PHYSICALLY LARGE bottles, allowing him to get many amperes of HV as instantaneous impulse. He even tried to explain it to us but we were blind. He said that at spark gap there is always a loss ! That's why he invented rotary spark gap and interrupters. Simply you have to avoid looses at all case! Look at Aviso videos , I bet Tito would recomend them ;-)