ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

[gyulasun]

Gyulas circuit is great but moneywise ive spent a lot zero watts in  40 watts out
for titos circuit first   one
he used eric dollard   instead of 12 v battery he replaced it with 24 v 220 v  step up xfmr   a cpu fan for switching
a cap diode relay and an inverter   which I know you have all in hand or in stock
let us start from here and later  migrate to a more so
lid ttechno stuff       

Hi Totoalas,

It is very kind of you to mention that "my circuit" gives 40 watts out at zero watts in (if I understand it correctly)  but it is not "my circuit",  I simply drew a schematic as per Tito's description, you surely recall this:
http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg352107/#msg352107   

You also drew a setup later on with an E ferrite core included in the circuit, http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg352229/#msg352229   and if you could comment the exact circuit from which you receive the 40W output, that would be useful for everybody here. 

Thanks, Gyula

[a.king21]

Totoalas:
Can you please explain how you get 40w output with zero input?

[forest]

a.king21  yes, that is very hard to believe that that Tesla patent could be alone OU circuit. At least before starting to investigate it.
Why one electrode bulbs ? Very good point ! That's is part of the mystery. Apparently what Tesla is gently saying in background is : it won't work with ordinary incandescent bulbs due to high frequency and it works with my system of one wire energy transmission without lenz issue... So the output is critical, must be solved to be not loading circuit. First tip.Don't kill the dipole.


Second one. Amplification by Q factor.He is using ordinary municipal grid in that time it was Edison 110V DC. Now that is hard part : try to find any choke for 110V .... Looking for it at 230V I found only some rare relays coils and some small 230V DC motors. Basically what is needed is a coil from electromagnet with large enough resistance and very big inductance. Now you got milliamps taken from grid, small power like 40W and on the other side you have ... capacitor discharge into low resistance low inductance coil.  Later Tesla used AC because it was easier.  Again "don't kill the dipole " or rather Tito's "efficient usage of power source" apply. Power source shorted but really not bad, big energy in magnetic field but not much current. Tito: "yeah I'm using battery but not using it" (citiation from memory , sorry Tito-Master)


That's why Tesla always talked about activity of many thousands of horsepower... that was always real power for him, not just instant sharp  impulse. Now listen carefully what Barbosa and Leal stated about theirs device : 12kW inside but you should only take 6kW safetly (not disturbing resonance I bet), 22W taken from grid....due to chokes...
I bet you can do it now.

[DilJalaay]

For All those disbelievers, here is Tesla telling us ou/ energy amplifications, more energy than input etc etc...

Counsel

Speaking of your not having perfectly undamped waves at that time, you were referring to that character of circuit?

Tesla

Yes, but with another kind of circuit I could, of course.  The advantage of this apparatus was the delivering of energy at short intervals whereby one could increase activity, and with this scheme I was able to perform all of those wonderful experiments which have been reprinted from time to time in the technical papers.  I would take energy out of a circuit at rates of hundreds or thousands of horsepower.  In Colorado, I reached 18 million horsepower activities, but that was always by this device: Energy stored in the condenser and discharged in an inconceivably small interval of time.  You could not produce that activity with an undamped wave.  The damped wave is of advantage because it gives you, with a generator of 1 kilowatt, an activity of 2,000, 3,000, 4,000, or 5,000 kilowatts; whereas, if you have a continuous or undamped wave, 1 kilowatt gives you only wave energy at the rate of 1 kilowatt and nothing more.  That is the reason why the system with a quenched gap has become popular.

I have refined this so that I have been able to take energy out of engines by drawing on their momentum.  For instance, if the engine is of 200 horsepower, I take the energy out for a minute interval of time, at a rate of 5,000 or 6,000 horsepower, then I store [it] in a condenser and discharge the same at the rate of several millions of horsepower.  That is how these wonderful effects are produced.  The condenser is the most wonderful instrument, as I have stated in my writings, because it enables us to attain greater activities than are practical with explosives.  There is no limit to the energy which you can develop with a condenser.  There is a limit to the energy which you can develop with an explosive.

so what you people thinks, he were getting that much big power with these time Edison 110DC.
Noway impossible, other wise he just used all electricty of the city alone in his labority.




So here are the points:


1) damped oscillation is the key.
2) charge capacitor very fast.
3) fastest make break

[Grumage]

Second one. Amplification by Q factor.He is using ordinary municipal grid in that time it was Edison 110V DC. Now that is hard part : try to find any choke for 110V .... Looking for it at 230V I found only some rare relays coils and some small 230V DC motors. Basically what is needed is a coil from electromagnet with large enough resistance and very big inductance. Now you got milliamps taken from grid, small power like 40W and on the other side you have ... capacitor discharge into low resistance low inductance coil.  Later Tesla used AC because it was easier.  Again "don't kill the dipole " or rather Tito's "efficient usage of power source" apply. Power source shorted but really not bad, big energy in magnetic field but not much current. Tito: "yeah I'm using battery but not using it" (citiation from memory , sorry Tito-Master)

Dear forest.

For your chokes a practical solution could be the use of a core and coil from the drive motor of the fan in a Microwave oven. They have a reasonable resistance and  a value of over 1 Henry with the rotor removed.
Another alternative could be the use of the choke unit from an older style fluorescent light !! However these have a much lower internal resistance.

Cheers Grum.