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ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

Started by Tito L. Oracion, February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM

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Grumage

Quote from: Magluvin on February 10, 2014, 06:34:09 PM
I agree Grum. ;)

That seems special enough. I was impressed. ;D

Im not sure that it constitutes a parametric, as from what Ive read, there is no center coil, just the 90deg difference in the 2 openings of the core. Ive messed with multi cores, but not 3 coils in a row as you have. You might get the same effect without the 90deg cores, just make them 0deg and should be the same.  Is there any space between the cores, or physically touching? The parametric Ive seen is 1 solid core with the 2 openings 90 deg from each other.

If you can, it would be good to get some readings on in and out power. ;)

Mags

Dear Mags.

Thank you for your reply !! Better than the explanation I have not received from dear Bruce !!

You are quite correct regarding the "Non" parametric aspect !! Yes it should have a proper core coupling not as I have done with, what is effectively a shorted turn. So maybe some tests could be tried with multiple loops !!  ;)

Alas in trying to revisit this experiment that was done nearly a year ago now I have taken out my power amp module!! It will be a few days before I can obtain a replacement but I will hopefully be able to provide the necessary P in P out data.

Cheers Grum.

Magluvin

Quote from: Grumage on February 10, 2014, 06:50:45 PM
Dear Mags.

Thank you for your reply !! Better than the explanation I have not received from dear Bruce !!

You are quite correct regarding the "Non" parametric aspect !! Yes it should have a proper core coupling not as I have done with, what is effectively a shorted turn. So maybe some tests could be tried with multiple loops !!  ;)

Alas in trying to revisit this experiment that was done nearly a year ago now I have taken out my power amp module!! It will be a few days before I can obtain a replacement but I will hopefully be able to provide the necessary P in P out data.

Cheers Grum.

Hey Grum

Yep, I took out my amp doing the same. lol   I have to fix it.

While using another amp, I just kept the input to levels that the amp can handle.

You can wind smaller wire till you get 4ohm on the coils, which the amp will like much better. ;)

Im going through some of my cores to put together, where I will make the primary a bifi coil. It is said that using just 2 cores, primary wound on 1 core, and the second coil around/through the first core and a second core, loading the second core doesnt kill off primary resonance. ;D So it will be interesting to see if thats the case.

Keep up the good work. ;)

Mags

Dave45


totoalas

Quote from: Bruce_TPU on February 10, 2014, 06:08:49 PM
Now that may be interesting.   And did the current diminish as the voltage increased? 40 w load  stop blinking yes current increased

Was it open circuited voltage or across a resistor? open circuit v

Bruce_TPU

Quote from: Grumage on February 10, 2014, 06:50:45 PM
Dear Mags.

Thank you for your reply !! Better than the explanation I have not received from dear Bruce !!

You are quite correct regarding the "Non" parametric aspect !! Yes it should have a proper core coupling not as I have done with, what is effectively a shorted turn. So maybe some tests could be tried with multiple loops !!  ;)

Alas in trying to revisit this experiment that was done nearly a year ago now I have taken out my power amp module!! It will be a few days before I can obtain a replacement but I will hopefully be able to provide the necessary P in P out data.

Cheers Grum.

Hi Grum,

Listen, i play with toroids and windings more than any could imagine.  I have seen and produced things that I could not always expect.  But the point I was trying to make is never measure open circuited voltage.  It so varieswith capacitance. 

Also you gave no input nor output current.   Always use a resistor or load for proper measuring.  Open circuited voltage is too affected by capacitance.

that is my suggestion.

Redo your test with input voltage and current and place a 10 ohm resistor across the load.  That was my point.

Capacitance fools. 

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.