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ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

Started by Tito L. Oracion, February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM

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Reiyuki


Quote from: Bob Smith on June 29, 2014, 11:56:15 PMYes! Each of the wires wound parallel in the coil is energized by a pulse.  The more wires in parallel energized by the pulse, the greater the sum voltage. What do you think, Reiyuki -

Don't think about it as energizing with normal transformer inductance.  The opposed EM pulse is the energizing event.  I may just be misunderstanding your depiction.

Quote- are the 2 ends of each parallel wire fed into an Avramenko plug

Good call!  I was thinking of using Avramenko plug to accurately measure the unipolar charge.  Tip:Grounding gives much more power but ungrounded is more accurate.

Quote
- or might one end of each parallel wire be left open as a kind of antenna, while the other end leads to a diode and then joined with other parallel wires, dumping into a series discharge arrangement (coils/caps)?
- or perhaps some other variation?


  Maybe?  The single 'antenna' wire with diode attached is a really good idea for extraction.

  It all depends on the coil configuration.  As Tito said,  'the manyer the coil the better'.  Many coils on the output.  You'll know it's working when shorting one output coil boosts power output on the others.


Again, take my thoughts with grains of salt, I'm still learning this stuff myself.

Bob Smith

Quote from: Reiyuki on June 30, 2014, 01:12:52 AM
Don't think about it as energizing with normal transformer inductance.  The opposed EM pulse is the energizing event.  I may just be misunderstanding your depiction.
Good point - Tito did mention RE. I envisioned a circular wound bundle of parallel coils with another coil wound perpendicularly. The perpendicular coil would be energized by a pulse from something like a JT or 555 timer switch or even a cap.  So yes, as you say, what we take from the parallel coils is going to be the inductive kickback opposing the energizing pulse.

QuoteGood call!  I was thinking of using Avramenko plug to accurately measure the unipolar charge.  Tip:Grounding gives much more power but ungrounded is more accurate.
Yes, Tito seems to favour Moray's antenna and virtual ground method.  As for the AV plug, it's worth a try.  Or the antenna wire with diode at the end (below) might work as well.

QuoteMaybe?  The single 'antenna' wire with diode attached is a really good idea for extraction.
Again, Tito's references to Moray was my thought here. I also thought about a kind of Litz wire config, where the separate coils of same length are tinned and soldered together at both ends. That way, one end is the antenna, and the other has a diode, or if you like, both ends lead to the AV plug, or again, keeping each coil separate with its own diode, all tied together at the distal end of the diode leading into the series arrangement of coils (the proximal end could be tied together into an antenna.  - I think there are a few different ways to skin this cat, and only experimenting will tell which is best.

QuoteIt all depends on the coil configuration.  As Tito said,  'the manyer the coil the better'.  Many coils on the output.  You'll know it's working when shorting one output coil boosts power output on the others.
Yes, I think we're looking at two things here.  Many parallel coils on the first part of the device are going to give us an increased input voltage.  If we discharge what comes out of this part into series-arranged, series-wound flat bifilar (pancake) coils, each with their relatively high capacitance (relative to the parallel coils) will discharge to produce a higher voltage. 

Now here's a twist. Forest mentioned discharging into a high inductance, low resistance coil in another thread. I surmised this to be a thick copper wire coil (e.g., 10 or 12 AWG or 1/4 inch copper tubing) with a large number of windings (say, 20+). My thinking was that this might increase the amperage and drop the voltage to a more useable level.

QuoteAgain, take my thoughts with grains of salt, I'm still learning this stuff myself.
That makes the 2 of us, and Tito's been a very patient teacher. He's brought a number of us a long way along.

Take care,
Bob

Jeg

Quote from: Bob Smith on June 30, 2014, 08:27:19 AM

Now here's a twist. Forest mentioned discharging into a high inductance, low resistance coil in another thread.

Tesla Quote on High frequencies high Currents

'' If you pass a current into a circuit with LARGE self-induction and no radiation takes place, and you have LOW resistance, there is no possibility of this energy getting out into space, therefore THE IMPRESSED IMPULSES ACCUMULATE..''

Jeg

Quote from: Bob Smith on June 30, 2014, 08:27:19 AM
 
I also thought about a kind of Litz wire config, where the separate coils of same length are tinned and soldered together at both ends.

I am currently experimenting on this. I made a TPU like transformer, with a LITZ wire secondary (inner core) and a self oscillator wrapped on this inner coil. Litz has at least 100 wires, all short circuited at the ends. For sure there are some unique futures in an arrangement like this, but i haven;t compare it yet with a same transformer with just one solid wire as a secondary core. But, until now what i see is
A) a transformer in which the secondary doesn't affect primary's resonance as they are perpendicular between each other so very easy tunning..., and
B) Radiant energy is so intense that i can light a bulb where ever i attach it on the insulated transformer!

Primary's freq=27MHz 200V and so the secondary as it is only two turns.



Bob Smith

Jeg,
Thanks very much for sharing your results. It looks like things are starting to take shape.

Here is one simple vid on making Litz wire:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWL8qGCeTJA (slow-moving, but good results)
Bob