ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

[Bob Smith]

Thought I'd post this as a kind of micro scale example of how bemf can be redirected into a circuit:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGHAMMEm8lo&list=UUVesA155Der2tRd5vpyYdJw&index=2&feature=plcp 
Schematic and explanation begin at 30 seconds mark. I believe this is a simplified example of Tito's energy amplification principle. I don't believe it rules out anything anyone's been saying, especially Dave45 with the ionization dimension.  I just think it's a key part of the puzzle. 

The question for me now is how to apply this concept with coils and energy amplification.  If you think about it, you're returning bemf back to the source thousands of times per second, and this can add up quickly.  I now believe I know why Tito was careful with his disclaimers about the dangers of larger setups (that is, larger than the one linked above).  In this sense, I think this was why Teets as of late was also encouraging energy amplification with multiple wires (i.e., litz wire), to keep voltage lower, less lethal.
Bob

[gyulasun]

Hi Bob,

Would like to notice a few things on your above example of "how bemf can be redirected into a circuit".

In the schematic shown in the video, you can see that the diode is in parallel with the coil. This means that the voltage spike created across the coil (just after the reed switch turns off) is fully shunted by the diode and cannot reach the battery to charge it. However, the current is maintained in the coil via the diode till the energy of the spike is fully consumed of course and this has the benefit of reducing the needed ON time for the reed switch: without the diode the ON time would be higher for the switch, so the total input energy would be a bit higher without the parallel diode. Igor said in the video that the bemf goes back to the battery but in fact it does not,  still it gives a certain "gain" though.

I do not know whether you noticed his 2nd part video on his setup, where he omitted the diode which was in parallel with the coil and used a white LED in parallel with the reed switch? In fact this modification was suggested by another youtube user and Igor shows a new schematic. In this circuit the voltage spike is indeed rectified and guided back to the battery via the white LED, so the input battery could take charge from the spikes. Of course the spikes energy could be collected in a separate puffer capacitor too if needed.

The white LED has a higher than 3V or so forward voltage drop, this proves that indeed the spikes from the coil operate it and not the 1.3V battery voltage.

Here is the link to his 2nd video on the reed switch spinner: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWvI7T7h3tk

I believe it would be a further improvement to place an electrolitic capacitor of some hundred uF or maybe higher directly across the input DC + and - contacts AND to connect the input battery via a series low forward drop diode to those DC input contacts: this way the backemf would go into the capacitor and the average voltage across it could go higher than the battery voltage, the diode would separate the battery voltage from the cap voltage and current would be taken from the battery when the cap voltage would be consumed by the circuit below the battery voltage. I attached a schematic from the video with these suggestions, the diode in series with the battry must be a Germanium or low barrier Schottky type to reduce loss to a minimum.

On your pondering whether the returning of the bemf to the source has any effect on energy amplification: I think it still remains to be proved by tests.  My take on this is that these circuits as shown  can reduce input power consumption, that is certain.

rgds,  Gyula

[Bob Smith]

Hi Gyula
Many thanks for your thoughtful response to my post. I will be going over it in detail and reflecting on it over the next couple of days.  My initial inspiration on reintroducing/redirecting bemf came from some posts by a fellow named John Myatt.  He seems to have a handle on how Tesla and Stan Meyer were able to amplify their energy thorough the use of a diode and reintroducing bemf to the circuit.  Here's the link to his info that I posted a few pages back (see also post below it):
http://www.overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg410379/#msg410379
I wish to explore this bemf reintroduction further, and will try to concentrate my efforts in this direction.
Bob

[Dave45]

Hey Bob
I must have missed that post somehow.
A very interesting read on the WFC and Tesla choke.

A few months back I ran across V8carlos's work,
He used a bifilar primary, pulsed one winding and ran the bemf from that winding into the other winding and reported overunity results.
He put out a pdf this is the schematic from that pdf.

[dllabarre]

Hey Bob
I must have missed that post somehow.
A very interesting read on the WFC and Tesla choke.

A few months back I ran across V8carlos's work,
He used a bifilar primary, pulsed one winding and ran the bemf from that winding into the other winding and reported overunity results.
He put out a pdf this is the schematic from that pdf.

Do you have a link to V8carlos' pdf?


Thanks
DonL