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Overunity Machines Forum



Knitel's InfinityPump

Started by wizkycho, February 16, 2009, 07:55:05 AM

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wizkycho

Quote from: -[marco]- on February 20, 2009, 06:31:51 AM
Your dreams are useless, what we need is proof of concept, repeatable results.
This begins exactly where dreaming ends so maybe it's time for you to wake up  :)

Marco.

very important: (for who doesn't now that)

dream(tought, idea...) is first then and only then comes proof of concept...or not.

Wiz

hansvonlieven

Quote from: tagor on February 21, 2009, 02:23:40 AM

you can look also at :

La fontaine de Heron ( used in the flowing water of Versaille )


how it works in english
http://www.history.rochester.edu/steam/hero/

you can read the pic but text in french
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A9ron_d'Alexandrie


Here is the whole system described in detail. It alsy shows why this is NOT a perpetual motion machine and why it stops after a short time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heron%27s_fountain

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

wizkycho

Hi all !

First:
I'm not drawing this pictures to keep You occupied from something more important
please All ! give it a tought

Paradox still applies but now the height of input pump is actually in milimeters (not 5m),
so initiall preassure must be smaller by significant ammount.

have I, by lowering paradox at entrance, created some other impposibility ?
I think not, V1 can still hold preasssure when closed not to allow water in input "pipe" to fall down.

Wiz

hansvonlieven

@ wizkycho


This cannot work either, for very much the same reasons as the previous version.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

wizkycho

Quote from: hansvonlieven on February 22, 2009, 05:48:47 AM
@ wizkycho


This cannot work either, for very much the same reasons as the previous version.

Hans von Lieven

certain positive:
.most of water here is allready lifted so input path to cilinder is not 5m.it is now and can be drawn/made 1mm

maybe negative:
.new paradox point might have been created at a bottom ...but that allso is in mm.

counter maybe negative:
although I don't think so cause water is not solid. it will create many small wortex-es.that I think will add to mechanism of pump up action.
...but now water from bottom container allso has to climb millimeters to refill the addon tank

You don't even think it deserves experiment. Is there some simmilar experiment ?

Wiz