Knitel's InfinityPump

[Pirate88179]

Well Hans, you tried.

Bill

[truth]

Just a thought,

ALL of these ideas hinge on one thing and FAIL on that same thing.

A mass must change volume without changing its weight  while under pressure in order for gravity to be tricked into utilizing its own force against itself.

Working on HOW that can be done would be much more productive than daydreaming about having done it already, or arguing over ideas that do not succeed in changing volume without changing weight while overcoming pressure obstacles.

Is there anyone here that does not understand this concept?

There may be a solution that works, but suggesting the same things over and over will never help discover it.

EVERYTHING HANS STATED is correct. Use that knowledge to be creative.

Please remember that it is the responsibilty of the person suggesting an idea to PROVE that idea is correct and workable. It is not the other way around.

Good Luck Everyone

[grayone]

wizkycho; I think your idea is all wet.  You need to pay attention to the engineer Hans von Lieven.

[hammuraby]

i haven't read evryting, for my easy English...but my be can be better, follow my idea on this system:
i think that this can work, and w/out heavy-loud inside,  but:
1)  when the "piston" have to such water from the long tube have NOT to start on the hiest point possible, but this have to save upside a quantity of water a little more heavy then the heavyness that pull into the long tube....
2) never the air have to came inside , when you open under from the descharge tube ... the only air in the reservoire, have to stay into the under side of the piston ||-----||; then the under walls of this piston have "to be contained" the air when this is expanded from the action from down sucking movement..

[Thaelin]

   Twenty six pages and did anyone even make a mock up?  This would be a fun afternoon
project just to see what it would do. The piston needs a bouyency block in it and multiple
valves. Dual drain valves in the bottom and one for the up tube. The size of the up tube will
need to be correct for the piston weight. That including the weight of the water or fluid on top
of it.
   No takers?

thay