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Knitel's InfinityPump

Started by wizkycho, February 16, 2009, 07:55:05 AM

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ramset

Broli

Nice skills !!

I believe as marco said

The air will still push past the water [screwing things up]

I also feel a seat/seal manifold at the bottom could deal with this problem

[I can feel the snickers TK  Marco ]

   Chet







Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

hartiberlin

Well,
yes, Hans also pointed out in the German overunity.de
forum, that the air going through V3 is a problem

I am enclosing a single frame of the original animation
where you can exactly see, that when V3 opens,
that the air will be compressed in the bottom and it will
go up through V3.

So I ask myself if Broli is correct with his new animation, that
it will still work this way, or if with each cycle more air will come in
and will make it worse , so the 100 Kg steel swimmer unit
will not go up anymore to the top ?

Maybe there could be introduced a fix, so that all the air will
go out at the side via another valve  and not through V3 ?

Maybe we can find a solution for this ?

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

hartiberlin

Hmm,
I pondered again about the idea of user broli
from here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6836.msg158227#msg158227

and I agree, that if we can keep the air volume in the device as he has
shown and no additional air will come in,
that this principle will work.

I can not find any error now.

Anybody else ?

Many thanks to broli for fixing it.
Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

hartiberlin

I reedited the Broli Animation and edited the 100 Kg weight out, so that
you can see it better , that it is a hollow 100 Kg Steel weight, which is swimming
on the water.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

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Quote from: hartiberlin on February 17, 2009, 11:37:56 PM
Hmm,
I pondered again about the idea of user broli
from here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6836.msg158227#msg158227

and I agree, that if we can keep the air volume in the device as he has
shown and no additional air will come in,
that this principle will work.

I can not find any error now.

Anybody else ?

Many thanks to broli for fixing it.
Regards, Stefan.



I think the problem is still the air on top of cylinder. The weight will not rise to top but little bit lowere
and because of this there will be after every cycle little bit more air and the machine will stop. Solution for
this might be that you don't let the air go to top. To do this you need to add tube from V3 to bottom of cylinder
and leave some water to bottom of cylinder. This way the air can not go through V3 up.

I think it is really difficult to avoid additional air coming from V2. If the pressure in cylinder get negative,
then the air will come into cylinder. I'm wondering does it matter if the air comes into cylinder if we don't let
it move up - the V3 tube...

br,
Gravitator