My Current Build

[AB Hammer]

  eric,
What Pirate Bill has left out is that Alan wanted to meet us. me and Bill both live in Kentucky. Alan wanted us to travel to Mississippi. Needless to say, the meeting never took place.
I can also pull up posts where Alan said I'll need to learn to dance for the public and I didn't know what he was talking about.
What he was talking about was he was trying something along the lines I was discussing. This way, if it works, he'd give credit where due. And if it doesn't, he's safe from having tried something by saying I don't know what I'm talking about. I call that walking on both sides of the fence.
One way he does this is by saying I said something about Mt 24. And what it is, is he is wanting me to clarify something for him. Instead, he should be willing to do what everybody else in here does and be willing to discuss things.
He has said several times that i want him to build for me. Nope. he's not a carpenter. And Bessler said it would take a good carpenter. This is where Alan flatters himself.
In reality, to do a decent build, it only takes a s aw, drill and some hand tools. Most of the wood that would is already cut by a mill to precise dimensions, ie. thickness, width, etc. That would be the most important part. What is more important than that is understanding the engineering. And this is where someone trying to jump the gun and build before the engineering is properly understood creates problems. They need to say it won't work for a vague reason (keel effect) while wanting something they don't understand put into terms they can work with. Playing both ends against the middle doesn't work very well.
Myself, to my discredit, have discussed my builds openly before I built them. And Alan knows that when i discuss i9dea's that I will do abuild on them. So why as in G-Force did he keep telling me that he proved wheels like Mt 24 were proven to be non-runners by his build ?
If you ask me, he was trying to figure out how to build it. As he put it, he is like Bessler and in time will reveal his secrets. Which his secrets will also require me to learn to dance for the public.

BAHammer

You are making me laugh. You never get the story strait. I don't live in Mississippi. LOL
OH yes you said I am not a carpenter and I don't know about woodwork. LMAO  I have built buildings, done roofing, rebuilt Revolutionary war cannon carriages, done electrical work, and lost and lost of maintenance work. And lets straiten out another story. I said back then you would be welcome to come down, but you are no longer welcome. As for the meeting I said I have my leather supplier up in KY. and we all could meet in KY on one of my trips.

Bessler said it could be built by a carpenter's apprentice of 1 year.

Here is a test for you and anyone else that will teach you what you seem not to understand. Make a T bar. Put the center part in something that turns like a bearing mounted in wood or a vice. Mount a weight on each end and balance it. Then spin it. It will spin for a while. The bend one side down just a little and spin it again. Now look at what position it will stop. Turn it back up and let go and it will end up in the same position. This simple effect is what kills most wheels, and you can find it in all non runners that uses dropping weights weather it be on pendulum arms or free fall. The words I use is KEEL EFFECT!. Now if you finally come up with something new I will check it out. But until then, I will be busy building wheels.

[BAHammer]

  Alan,
When you were in the accident with the 18 wheeler, did someone die ?

[AB Hammer]

  Alan,
When you were in the accident with the 18 wheeler, did someone die ?

OK on this one you mixed 2 different stories. I was in a head on collision in 1996. A drunk driver crossed the center line and hit me. He was driving a pickup at estimated 65 mph and I was in a car at about 45 mph in the rain. He crossed at the last moment which gave me no reaction time 110mph impact. No one died but I now have bad legs and he doesn't have his at all.
I told you about my cousin here in LA. who got in an accident with a tanker truck and all was burned up, of course no survivors.

And yes I know you where being sarcastic. I have learned it is better just to tell what happened and go on, despite of sarcastic questions. The real miracle was we both lived when most would not have lived at all.

[BAHammer]

OK on this one you mixed 2 different stories. I was in a head on collision in 1996. A drunk driver crossed the center line and hit me. He was driving a pickup at estimated 65 mph and I was in a car at about 45 mph in the rain. He crossed at the last moment which gave me no reaction time 110mph impact. No one died but I now have bad legs and he doesn't have his at all.
I told you about my cousin here in LA. who got in an accident with a tanker truck and all was burned up, of course no survivors.

And yes I know you where being sarcastic. I have learned it is better just to tell what happened and go on, despite of sarcastic questions. The real miracle was we both lived when most would not have lived at all.

  This shows how little you know Alan.
My brother lost his parents and his only sibling when he was about 21. Then he met my sister.
Then she died. I know other people who have had similar experiences.
Yet, I have not seen him carry on the way you have in this forum.
To be explicit. Ralph has posted he is in this for profit. The people he works with are investors.
This is an open forum. This means if myself or others wish to discuss things without you orchestrating a hierarchy where you give yourself a prominent position, we can do so.
When Ralph does a build for someone, he can claim patent rights. All he has to do is say he modified their design.
You mentioned legalities when I put a copyright symbol on my drawings. This shows you are aware of the law as well as Ralph would be. Most people in here are not aware that a legal agreement should be in place before engaging in a design discussion with someone when a patent might be pursued.
As for you, 2 things. One is a Trojan Horse and the other is a sheep in wolf's clothing.
You can be as friendly and helpful as possible. but as in the California Gold Rush, Sutter made no money from discovering gold. Most of the miners didn't either. it was the businessmen like you and Ralph who profited the most.
And as to your levered wheel build, that is an Mt 24 with most of the levers removed to conceal what you were doing. ie., Trojan Horse.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trojan_horse
After all Alan, you are nobody's friend, you're in this for yourself. You just use ralph to promote yourself. But if you think Mt 24 can work, you would have no problem building it then giving credit to who you wish to. You often say that, you believe in giving credit where it's due. this is to help legitamize undermining people in this forum.

[AB Hammer]

  This shows how little you know Alan.
My brother lost his parents and his only sibling when he was about 21. Then he met my sister.
Then she died. I know other people who have had similar experiences.
Yet, I have not seen him carry on the way you have in this forum.
To be explicit. Ralph has posted he is in this for profit. The people he works with are investors.
This is an open forum. This means if myself or others wish to discuss things without you orchestrating a hierarchy where you give yourself a prominent position, we can do so.
When Ralph does a build for someone, he can claim patent rights. All he has to do is say he modified their design.
You mentioned legalities when I put a copyright symbol on my drawings. This shows you are aware of the law as well as Ralph would be. Most people in here are not aware that a legal agreement should be in place before engaging in a design discussion with someone when a patent might be pursued.
As for you, 2 things. One is a Trojan Horse and the other is a sheep in wolf's clothing.
You can be as friendly and helpful as possible. but as in the California Gold Rush, Sutter made no money from discovering gold. Most of the miners didn't either. it was the businessmen like you and Ralph who profited the most.
And as to your levered wheel build, that is an Mt 24 with most of the levers removed to conceal what you were doing. ie., Trojan Horse.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trojan_horse
After all Alan, you are nobody's friend, you're in this for yourself. You just use ralph to promote yourself. But if you think Mt 24 can work, you would have no problem building it then giving credit to who you wish to. You often say that, you believe in giving credit where it's due. this is to help legitamize undermining people in this forum.

What the heck are you talking about?

>>as to your levered wheel build, that is an Mt 24 with most of the levers removed to conceal what you were doing. ie., Trojan Horse.<<

You are talking like a $#!+ salesman with a mouth full of samples. MT24 is not a running wheel. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I got to get back to work, but this made a good laugh for my lunch break.