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Magnet motor using repeling magnets (or radial magnets if availbale).

Started by broli, March 12, 2009, 03:37:58 PM

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Low-Q

Quote from: broli on March 13, 2009, 06:38:33 PM
What? Sorry but you need to study mechanics a bit more. This is pretty basic stuff. This design is so simple and clear that there is not a single reason why it wouldn't work. I'm not looking for discussion about the concept as I'm pretty convinced that anyone with basic mechanic and electricity knowledge would say it would rotate, I'm looking for someone who can make a build out of it as I can't even tie my shoe lasses at the moment.
No, we don't need to discuss it. The rotormagnet will not change position in proportion to the statormagnet. The torque affecting the rotormagnet will only affect that magnet, and you have to look at where the center of thet torque is present. That is in the very middle of the rotormagnet. So the statormagnet wants to rotate around this center too. It is the magnetism from the statormagnets that is making torque in the rotormagnet. The rotormagnet want to flip around in a much steeper curve than the curve it is mechanicly limited to. You prevent mechanicly the magnet to flip around, so it will therefor never affect the torque in the totor at all. So it will not work.

This is very easy to replicate in practice, so I did. I let the statormagnet be the rotating one, and I kept the rotormagnet in my hand. That shouldn't make any difference. If you are right, the statormagnet would now start to spin. I can feel the force in the magnet I'm holding in, but it only wants to flip around its own axis, and nothing happens with the rotormagnet.

So the conclution is: No discussions - it will not work :)

br.

Vidar

Oyashiro

Quote from: broli on March 13, 2009, 02:47:28 PM
I realized you don't really need the outer ring, this is just to strengthen the field which will result in more torque. So the field of two cylindrical magnets repelling each other should prove the point. Attached is what it comes down to.

Sorry, but I kind of got lost... Getting back to the original idea, shouldn't the rotomagnets be inside the ringmagnets? Also, the ringmagnets should be facing each other with different poles (they are south-south and they should be north-south or vice-versa). Shouldn't one of the ringmagnets be flipped?

Low-Q, did you also try this kind of configuration? What were the conclusions?
(If this does not work I have some other configuration that might, but I am unable to test them...)

Oyashiro-sama

broli

The configuration is correct. If the main magnets are attracting it should not work. This is based from experiments done with electromagnets that is why I assumed a permanent magnet should give the same result. And yes it can be in between it.