Buoyancy wheel inside two conditions.

[brian334]

It takes energy to make something move, what energy makes your wheel turn?
What energy moves the pistons?
What energy creates the vacuum?
What energy moves the water?
What energy overcomes the friction of all the moving parts?

[Low-Q]

It takes energy to make something move, what energy makes your wheel turn?
What energy moves the pistons?
What energy creates the vacuum?
What energy moves the water?
What energy overcomes the friction of all the moving parts?

I'll try to answer as good as I can :

You need force to make something move, but as it moves it develops kinetic energy. From there the energy is utilized - not provided to the system.

In one complete round, the energy used to move the pistons is zero + friction.

Vacuum does not create energy. Vacuum is used to make the movement of the pistons easier to alter the volume inside the cylinders. If it was air inside, it would require much force to compress the air in one cylinder and decompress air in the oposite cylinder. With vacuum the force on the surface of the piston will be the same regardless of volume inside. With a rod that controls the two oposite pistons, the net force to alter the volume is therfor zero.

The water is moved around due to rotation of the wheel and movement of the pistons. However, the water content is constant, and the water inside the tank isn't actually going anywhere. The inertia in the water is slowing down the system, but if there is potential force or torque in the wheel it will start spinnig - maybe a little slow.
At this point I'm unsure. Will the pistons try to move water upwards? Look at the pistons to the left. They are not moving the water upwards as the wheel is going downwards. What about right side. Is the piston easier to pull out as the water is gradually more shallow? There is a few things here I'm not getting right.

The torque from the buoyancy effect are suppose to overcome all these frictions. If the net force or torque is mostly working in one direction, and isn't cancelled out during one revolution, left you have a potential energy waiting to be released by leting the wheel go. Friction only brakes the movement a bit, so friction isn't an oposite equivalent to the force created by the buoyancy.

Bottom line: I'm ONLY looking for the net torque of the whole system during one complete revolution. If the sum of all forces in one complete revolution is positive or negative, the wheel will start spinning. As I mentioned, friction is a variable and can be controlled, and isn't allways so significant that is stops any motor completely. Conventional motors works because of torque, not because of zero friction. The energy is torque times revolutions pr. time. So if the wheel will spin by help of positive or negative torque, I'll probably be a dead man

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[brian334]

You say,
You need force to make something move, but as it moves it develops kinetic energy. From there the energy is utilized - not provided to the system.
Two questions,
1. What is the force that makes the kinetic energy?
2. If your machine works why would you be a dead man?

[Low-Q]

You say,
You need force to make something move, but as it moves it develops kinetic energy. From there the energy is utilized - not provided to the system.
Two questions,
1. What is the force that makes the kinetic energy?
2. If your machine works why would you be a dead man?

1. The hope is to get more torque from the left side than the right side of the wheel. There is more displaced water on the left side than on the right side. This sum of torque other than 0 will make the force to spin the wheel. A spinning or moving mass is kinetic energy. The question is if that is the case here...

2. Because the oil industry is not the industry to fu#*?k with.

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I have been brain dead. If both cylinders is in air, the force to pull the oposite pistons back and forth will be zero. But if one of the cylinders is under water there will be greater force on that piston inside, so the piston is forced by weight of water to decrease the volume inside that cylinder. That will stop the wheel. I have to think a little more, on how it could be possible to make a counter force for that. I have been thinking on a magnet which is shaped and placed in a way that it gradually attracting a piece of steel on the rod or in the pistons which perfectly balanced the weight of water pressing on the piston. I'll be back with more drawings.

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