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First electrical power output from a Pyramid

Started by hartiberlin, January 18, 2006, 05:32:45 PM

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jeanna

Quote from: NickZ on June 30, 2010, 09:54:35 PM

  I've noticed that there are several different sizes of ballasts, for 20 watt tubes, 40 watt,
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   I'll try a coil on top of my 6 foot copper pyramid one of these days,  it would be important to know more about the whole circuit though.   
                     NZ

Hi Nick,
I have been told that the ballasts are all radioactive. It is this radioactivity that fires up the fluorescent bulb.
Sorry. I am not interested.
the newer cfls all have toroids in them to replace what the radioactive ballasts used to do to start up the lights.

I forget if you have a joule thief circuit you can use.??
I hope you do.
I would love to see how your pyramid plus a conical secondary does.

Peter grandics said the conical part only needs to be about 4 inches tall. That is great news. The 2 inch one I made was hard to make and 4 inches would be possible. I would not want to have to make a 6 foot one!
I can imagine a joule thief circuit inside and the toroid on the top connected through to the conical secondary. I also want to try this on a bigger one.

Anyway,
I am glad to see there is still interest here.

thank you,

jeanna

NickZ

 @Pirate & All:
    The guy that posted the Dual JT connected to 15 pound toroid is doing something like what comes to my mind.  But, he has not updated any more results or info on it though,  that I know of.
    Lidmotor- has got an CFL lighting up plus his device is self charging, and self running.  He is using an ignition coil to fire his CFL.  That looks like free energy from a close loop to me.
If his ignition coil, the two 12v batteries and the beafed-up JT are not neccesary,  why use them?  If an CFL could be light with a 1.5 volt AA and only the Joule thief.  But, since the more volts you start with the higher the output power,  there is a relationship there. But, it's not about lighting just one CFL.
12v is 8 times more input than the 1.5v battery can give, and therefore can possibly give that many times higher output. 
  A joule thief connected to a pyramid might also be able to raise a small insignificant voltage to highter output power,  for free.
I'm into trying that too, as I already have the Pyramid and can give that a try with out any mayor expence. But it is big and clunky, and is it worth it for a volt ot two?  Maybe with a big toroid on top it might work alot better,  like Jeanna says.
  The idea of using a 12v battery (or two in series for 24v), a JT, and ignition coil, ballast, or a Tv flyback, is to get much more power from the little JT circuit than if it were just running by itself.
        NZ
   
                                                                             
   
                                           
 
 
 

WilbyInebriated

Quote from: jeanna on July 01, 2010, 01:26:43 AM
I have been told that the ballasts are all radioactive. It is this radioactivity that fires up the fluorescent bulb.

whomever told you that is misinformed.
http://home.howstuffworks.com/fluorescent-lamp6.htm
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe

NickZ

   @ Jeanna and All:
   Thanks for the info on the radioactivity.. . I sure didn't know that.
    I checked at a local electronics parts stores and they had some 2N2222 transistors, diode, resistor, leds, but I didn't know if that was the best way to go on the JT. They didn't have the 2N3055 but there may be something similar that can be located here to make a beefier JT,  or like the Clive circuit.
  Any ideas are welcome.

 
                                                 

Pirate88179

NickZ:

I can't really simplify the JT circuit because, as of now, there are many.  Basically, it works by raising the volts and the frequency and pulling the remaining juice from a "dead" battery that many folks toss out when their electronics equipment tell them it is "dead".  This is why some of my JT videos speak of "free energy" or "free light".

My friends give me all of their "dead" batteries and I, like many others in our research group, can light a bunch of stuff for many, many hours or days with them.

I would suggest reading at least some of the huge JT topic or at least skim it.

Then, as Jeanna would most likely say, start by building the BJT.  (Basic JT circuit.)  This uses the 2N3904 transistor and a ferrite toroid and a bifilar winding and a 1K resistor.

Then you can graduate to the more complex circuits like the Jeanna Circuit.  This is at least 3 separate windings on one toroid such as the base coil, the collector coil, and the pick-up coil.  Then you will see that you can add several more pick-up coils and you can light even more lights from that, AND, your amp draw will not go up and in some cases, it might even drop. (which can't happen from what they teach us)

Things that we have found that can light from these circuits are cfl's (of which I am not a fan) floro tubes, and of course, leds.  We have no amps in this circuit but we have found that to do some things, you don't need them like we were taught we did.

Most basic example:  A typical regular , run of the mill LED (Not over size or ultra bright) will require around 3.5 volts and at least 20 mA's to light.  So now, our group has shown that we can light hundreds of them from a single AA battery, at 1.5 volts or less, usually less as they are "dead".

The leds are flashing as we are using pulsed dc, or ac, and our eyes can't tell because the hz is around 25k for an average JT. (The lights in your house in the US flash on/off at 60hz)

Anyway, check over at the JT topic and if you need any help at all, you will find many folks ready, willing and able to do so.

It is a fun circuit and I do not believe that any one single person knows all there is to know about it.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen