First electrical power output from a Pyramid

[duff]

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[duff]

I am continuing to experiment.

After some thought I have dropped my sand level to just below the center conductor in the top horizontal copper tube. This will prevent the two sides from shorting via the copper wire.

I am also making adjustments in the salt solution level. I am making small changes and keeping accurate records of what has been injected. I wait a day or so before making further adjustments and record voltage levels between the carbon & copper every hour or so.  I have not yet reached a level where solution runs out the right hole and have injected 6 ml so far.

I've also been trying to determine if there is an interaction between the galvanic action of the copper and carbon, the pyramid alignment and height of the energy pickup device. So far I've seen no patterns that I can identify. The only thing I've noted is that the voltage with respect to the carbon and copper is higher with all 4 sides on.

I have never seen any voltage between the secondary capacitor and the pyramid frame other than an ac component. Yes - I have a separate ground from my house wiring and plumbing. It is a ground I setup on a previous experiment. The Earth Ground consists of 26" flat spiral (roughly 50 feet of 1/2 inch copper tubing) buried in a 16 inch hole with an 8 foot ground rod driven through the center to a depth of 16"+96"=112 inches. The ac component is a problem...


-Duff

[Walter Hofmann]

Hi duff,
I am so damne busy with work that I did have no time to do anything but I will tell from my experience :
I never was aible to get some water out of the second hole and the answer is that the water gets up in the vertical sand, thats why I injected about 4mL on ether side very slow,
also I found that with the pyramide frame connected to the ground ( totaly seperated 10 feet in the ground) that the voltage what is shown goes down about half,
the covering of all four side's did not make any difference against just three side's, even the bare frame brought pretty much the same result
I have on the secondary cap after charging thru the converter DC and just 0.004V on AC
I only measure between the pyramide frame and the caps or converter . the converter is not connected at all to the pyramide frame this is in order to avoid any influence from a galvanic cell so to speak.
The kick start with a battery brought after the initial voltage run down nothing.
the highest output was the converter set to a hight of 230mm from base and a bit of true north, the pyramide frame set to true north. it was 0.845V, but just one time never again more then 0,4V.
maybe this helps
greetings
walt

I am continuing to experiment.

After some thought I have dropped my sand level to just below the center conductor in the top horizontal copper tube. This will prevent the two sides from shorting via the copper wire.

I am also making adjustments in the salt solution level. I am making small changes and keeping accurate records of what has been injected. I wait a day or so before making further adjustments and record voltage levels between the carbon & copper every hour or so.  I have not yet reached a level where solution runs out the right hole and have injected 6 ml so far.

I've also been trying to determine if there is an interaction between the galvanic action of the copper and carbon, the pyramid alignment and height of the energy pickup device. So far I've seen no patterns that I can identify. The only thing I've noted is that the voltage with respect to the carbon and copper is higher with all 4 sides on.

I have never seen any voltage between the secondary capacitor and the pyramid frame other than an ac component. Yes - I have a separate ground from my house wiring and plumbing. It is a ground I setup on a previous experiment. The Earth Ground consists of 26" flat spiral (roughly 50 feet of 1/2 inch copper tubing) buried in a 16 inch hole with an 8 foot ground rod driven through the center to a depth of 16"+96"=112 inches. The ac component is a problem...


-Duff

[tinu]

@ Duff
I confirm almost all of your findings (or lack of those as it was the case), except the influence of presence/absence of external sides on the voltage. (But the voltage can be influenced by many things, including small variations in temperature; please check it as a possible cause.)

Saltwater might possibly come out at 12-15ml or more, depending on the hole height and other variables (sand texture, etc). But at that quantity of water the whole sand will be pretty much soaked.

@all,
There are many contradictions in the V6 description we have. Some of them do not simply reconcile. For instance, sand will obviously prevent the graphite rods from ?oscillating? at its ?free end?. Wet sand will do much worst?

Much talk can be done on the above issues (/on existing contradictions) but I guess it would be pointless.
I?d rather say in conclusion that it was definitely a hoax. And sorry pese, atlantex and others but I won?t buy the ?enemy story? anymore.
Check for yourself: if not an incredible coincidence, while hundreds of us were waiting for the ?guru? to come back, it seems he was on a prolonged holiday and nothing more: http://74784.iboox.com/
Then, although I?m not sure it can be verified anymore, I?m telling you that the company?s site was updated during those days; obviously, the story about lack of any internet connection was another lie. I don?t know about the burglary and about the threats threat but I do suspect that the old forum was hacked by TT himself; professional opinions on site security and hacking issues were already posted into this forum and elsewhere.

Now, we may search for free energy but I don?t think is fair that our time and resources as well as we, as human beings, are TT?s playground. Nobody asked him to make promises in the first place and to later mess with them. At least, speaking for myself I do not consider of being his fool and to me, until proved the opposite by himself, he is an ordinary liar or maybe just an ill person. Every bit of information I have (there is more besides the above already posted) points toward this sad conclusion. Comments?

Sorry for being maybe too direct,
Tinu

[duff]

Hi duff,
I am so damne busy with work that I did have no time to do anything but I will tell from my experience :
I never was aible to get some water out of the second hole and the answer is that the water gets up in the vertical sand, thats why I injected about 4mL on ether side very slow,

Walter,

My approach is much like yours. First I inject water in the right side and then the left. No solution ran out the right side when injecting the left. I injected in the right side first attempting to create an equal distribution of water and injected the left side last so that the drain action could work when the proper amount was reached.

I agree that the water is being absorbed by the sand in the vertical tubes but at some point the water should run out. I am going slow in a effort to try to determine the precise amount of salt solution it takes to saturate the sand and then produce run off.

On a previous attempt I saw water run out the right side after 6ml but I was injecting it much faster than this time and I got no results.

also I found that with the pyramide frame connected to the ground ( totaly seperated 10 feet in the ground) that the voltage what is shown goes down about half,
the covering of all four side's did not make any difference against just three side's, even the bare frame brought pretty much the same result

I think you are refering to the voltage between the secondary cap and the frame. At the moment  I am not so much interested in that voltage. I am trying to determine the influence of the pyramid orientation and height of the pickup device on the galvanic action.

In my case the ground does not seem to be influencing the galvanic action. I have run tested with and without the ground connected to the frame. Again I'm NOT looking at the voltage between the secondary cap and frame which is grounded.

My data is showing a slight trend toward higher voltages related to galvanic action with four sides on. Also, the last few nights I'm seeing higher voltages  starting around 22:00.

I've condsidered connecting a data logger to it but  I'd need to do some calabrations before beginning and it's cold in the garage right now...

I have on the secondary cap after charging thru the converter DC and just 0.004V on AC
I only measure between the pyramide frame and the caps or converter . the converter is not connected at all to the pyramide frame this is in order to avoid any influence from a galvanic cell so to speak.

Same as yours - My converter is not connected to frame or ground.

The kick start with a battery brought after the initial voltage run down nothing.
the highest output was the converter set to a hight of 230mm from base and a bit of true north, the pyramide frame set to true north. it was 0.845V, but just one time never again more then 0,4V.
maybe this helps
greetings
walt

I have tested at 233mm & 177mm so far and tried alignment with true north, a few degrees west of true north and magnetic north.


Did anyone get the pictures of Thomas & his wife posted at trawoeger-pyramide.info.

When I saw that picture I thought that looks like Flaivo Thomas who Thomas claims was a fraud.

I think Flaivo video shows the pyramid face aligned to magnetic north. The tic marks to the left are for alignment to true north.

I don't know what city Thomas lives in but most of Austria's magnetic declination is approximately 2 to 3 degrees East depending on your location. So the tic marks to the left (west) would make sense.

Thanks Walter for the input.

-Duff