Stanley Meyer Explained

[alan]

"Good to see that you caught that Alan was leading you in the wrong direction"
The chinese discovered the "hho" hype and have designed and professionally fabricated complete parts ready to use, like pulser modules and cells, filters and arrestors, no more need to mess and  mill parts yourself. They also sell well made hho welders and bedini setups for peanuts. If the vic works and cop exceeds 1, they'll "steal" it too. They are opportunistic and ain't wasting time. 

Meyer was ahead of his time: 
https://www.nature.com/articles/nenergy201772

[h20power]

"Good to see that you caught that Alan was leading you in the wrong direction"
The chinese discovered the "hho" hype and have designed and professionally fabricated complete parts ready to use, like pulser modules and cells, filters and arrestors, no more need to mess and  mill parts yourself. They also sell well made hho welders and bedini setups for peanuts. If the vic works and cop exceeds 1, they'll "steal" it too. They are opportunistic and ain't wasting time. 

Meyer was ahead of his time: 
https://www.nature.com/articles/nenergy201772

Unless I personally teach them how the technology works they, the Chinese, will not be stealing anything. You see in order to steal a technology one must first understand how it works and since there is nothing in the science books about how this technology works they can't understand it. With this technology as we have all seen, people can actually have Meyer's tech in their hands and not get the technology to work. Just ask Don Gable or the other folks that brought Meyer's technology how having Meyer's tech in their hands has worked out for them? This is not a technology that yields itself to being copied by outsiders as Meyer went out of his way to make sure something like that simply wouldn't happen to him. As such no one that has physically held Meyer's technology in their hands has been able to make much sense of it. You can even take me as an example as since I managed to put a high voltage potential to the WFC back in 2012 no one else in the world has managed to do so besides me that I am aware of.


I don't teach everything that I know about this technology and I promise you I will not be releasing any of my designs to the general public any time soon. All I do now is point people in the right direction and leave them to themselves to figure out how the technology works on their own just as I had to do but they are getting a head start with my pointing them in the right direction. You see I had no one pointing me in the right direction as I had to figure out everything on my own making use of the scientific method, but I did have a lot of people popping up out of the woodwork pointing me in the wrong direction. Say if someone stole one of my VIC transformers. They are not going to get any turn count data from it as it's vacuum resin sealed, and I brush off the specs of the blocking diodes I use. I have learned to be just as doggy as Meyer was as that's the only defense towards keeping the technology from being stolen. Here on this thread the only thing I gave away was that which I had promised I would do and that was the science behind the technology. So, I kept my promise that I made so many years ago.


Each time I'd ask someone to mirror me or just simply to work with me on this technology while I was figuring things out I was turned down or back stabbed when thy thought they knew enough to get the technology up and running so now I keep a lot of things to myself as a result. Those are the lessons I got from the school of hard knocks. I stopped sharing my data a long time ago as each time that I would do so it would elicit anger from those I showed. I no longer give much of any information about how these devices I've built perform. I will share some of my mistakes with the hopes people learn from those mistakes but not much else. Someone just ask for some information about how my stuff is working and I will simply ignore the request. Trust me I have my reasons for doing so that are outside of the normal talks we have on this site as there are still many out there that simply wish this technology to never see the light of day.


Then there's people like you Alan, who come to this thread with little to no understanding of how this technology works but feel they know enough to add in their two cents. If you push the gases created by this technology through a bubbler you lose all that you gained energy wise from this technology. This is especially true of the Gas Processor as all those unstable gas atoms will stabilize in a water bath and trust me that is not the desired effect you want to see with this technology. This technology is nothing like Dr. Faraday's electrolysis at all as it is making use of science that, as of yet, is not in the books of science used for study right now as it's brand new information. Now I could teach you how to make those hho generators be effective at lowering the fuel consumption of a internal combustion engine and since I am not doing much of anything at the moment why don't I go ahead and share that information with you all right now?


Those hho devices have a fixed output for the most part that does not raise or lower with the engine's revolutions per minute as the engine is being operated. Nor do they sense varying load conditions that will increase the amount of hho being generated to match the working conditions a engine will run into while they are being operated. As such one must have access to the engines fuel management system and a engine dyno and rewrite the power curve for the engine leaning out the fuel mixture where it needs to be leaned out. In other words you have to tell the engine's fuel management system that you added in another fuel for it to consider as it operates the engine at various speeds and loading conditions. If you don't have access to the fuel management system and a dyno to remap the added fuel into the system the fuel management system will simply add in more fuel making the car have worse fuel economy over time not better when adding in one of these hho devices to a car.
Lets say you got ahold of a good one like one of Bob Boyce's units that puts out around 24 LPM. You have to calculate how much fuel that is being added into the system and use that information to remap a new fossil fuel usage use as the engine is being operated. Since most of these hho unites do not increase/decrease their output with the car varying speeds and load conditions the faster the engine is run or the higher the load that is place on the engine the less effective the added hho to the system will be as it is being added to the system at a steady/fixed rate. This is how to correctly add a hho setup to a cars fuel system for it to be effective at lowering the car's fuel consumption giving you better fuel economy.


Now again if you don't have access to the car's fuel management system so that you can make changes to it and map those changes made on an engine dyno then adding one of these hho devices to a car is a waste of time as it will make the car use more fuel not less as the car doesn't sense any hydrogen being added to the system. The car's fuel management system only senses more oxygen has been added to the system and will add in more fuel as a result to maintain the 14.7 to 1 fuel ratio it's been programed to maintain.
Not so simple huh? People run around thinking all they have to do is slap one of these devices to their cars and all will be well and now you can see that is just foolish thoughts of someone not understanding the systems they are trying to improve upon, yes? Now what to you have to say about those well built Chines hho devices as I am sure they don't tell the buyers that they need to remap the car's fuel management systems so that they can have positive results with the hho device they just brought do they? Why don't they tell folks this information? Because those folks making the devices don't have an understanding how a modern car's fuel management system actually works. Furthermore they don't care as all they want is the money.


Hope you learned something from me and also note I am not some dummy just posting stuff to gain likes or something like that. I did make use of the scientific method on Meyer's technology and solved just what it is mimicking in nature.


Shalom,
Edward

[kolbacict]

My version of the thyristor circuit, 8XA ?   Only one arrester.
The voltages are high, you can make at least a few kilovolts.
Subsequently, a bifilar choke was added to the cell circuit.
And no free vibrations were noticed on the cell. A single impulse and that's it.
But again, everything is according to Faraday. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEgv8zIFccc

[alan]

I think Meyer never mentioned the resonant frequency of water, only resonance of the LCL charging network, so a high Q voltage forms over each component. Then  phase manipulation  by means of the coil setup (partnered opposite output coils) must oppose / delay current while allowing polarization through displacement current by an external voltage field instead of the charge integral. Polarized water creates a voltage by itself, that's probably how the watercap will hold an electrostatic field potential, until it releases electrons (ionization) and the covalent bind breaks and the electrons can be consumed by the amp consuming device. Current is equal, each component's voltage phase differs.
correct me if I'm wrong.

[h20power]

My version of the thyristor circuit, 8XA ?   Only one arrester.
The voltages are high, you can make at least a few kilovolts.
Subsequently, a bifilar choke was added to the cell circuit.
And no free vibrations were noticed on the cell. A single impulse and that's it.
But again, everything is according to Faraday. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEgv8zIFccc

Hi Kolbacict,


Here's the problem in a nutshell. Once you step away from what Meyer did you are on your own as you are doing something I would have not spent any time studying. At first I just wanted to get at the science behind the technology but once I saw that this technology goes way beyond just making use of water as a source of fuel I started making things. This technology is very much as Meyer said it was, "Only limited by the mind of the inventor to find a use for it." This is why getting at the science behind the technology was so important to me as the only way I could reasonably make use of it is only if I understood the underlying science behind the technology.


I still do not see why you just don't fully copy what Stanley Meyer did and go from there? Why try and change things so that if you do figure something out you will not be protected by the patent laws and as such someone with deeper pockets than you will copy what you did, patent it, and stop you from using it outright.