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Stanley Meyer Explained

Started by h20power, March 15, 2009, 06:34:59 PM

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guruji

Hi H2opower about the lawton circuit you said that I have to increase voltage. So I should do a sort of inverter after the circuit to higher voltage?
Thanks

h20power

Quote from: guruji on February 24, 2011, 03:22:35 PM
Hi H2opower about the Lawton circuit you said that I have to increase voltage. So I should do a sort of inverter after the circuit to higher voltage?
Thanks
Are you going to use a system that has just the chokes or a isolated pulsing VIC transformer? If you are using an isolated VIC pulsing transformer then all you need to add to the system is a high side PWM. In the pic of the high side PWM you just need to change the p-channel FET to one that can take a higher voltage. This PWM is hooked up to the positive side of the primary coil and the Lawton circuit to the negative side of the primary coil. That will give you control of the voltages without affecting the pulsing of the transformer.
If you are just using chokes then copying the H11D1 set up in the 8xa circuit will work best as the FETs don't like that type of slamming and will burn out. The Lawton can take the place of the pulsing unit in the 8xa circuit. It would connect right up to the 7404 shown in Tony Woodside's diagram.

Now as far as getting these hooked up to cars one has to first convert the car to run on propane gas then just switch fuels with all of Meyer's safety features added in, like the quenching circuit technology. That system would be set up to maintain a higher pressure than the working pressure needs for the system.

I know some are going to say it a bad idea to pressurize the hho, but if precautions are taking it can be safe. For whats the difference than running around with a tank full of a flammable liquid that will slow cook you and smoke the life out of you in the event of an accident? There are always risk with any system just take care in planning for the risk and you will be fine.

Hope that helps,

h2opower

guruji

Hi H20power thanks for response I am using this circuit posted: Is this not a PWM? Regarding pressurizing HHO I read that if one uses neutral plates for ionizing the gas would be safe.
Sorry posted two images.
Thanks

alan

I'm going to create the 3-23 VIC:
A modified EI to UI core.
Turns:
Primary: 50-100 thick wire
Secondary: 30k-40k 38awg
Chokes: 30k-40k 38awg

any suggestions?

h20power

Quote from: alan on February 25, 2011, 10:48:11 AM
I'm going to create the 3-23 VIC:
A modified EI to UI core.
Turns:
Primary: 50-100 thick wire
Secondary: 30k-40k 38awg
Chokes: 30k-40k 38awg

any suggestions?

Okay your going for the isolated VIC Matrix Circuit. Here are the rules:

1. Primary and chokes use the same size wire or very close to it.
2. Primary and chokes must have the same inductance value.
3. If you bifilar wound the primary that equals two primaries in one. Which is why in the patent Meyer's 3-23 VIC the Primary and the chokes have the same total turn counts.
4. The secondary's distributed capacitance value must be the same as the electrode set's capacitance value that is to be charged. Example, if you calculate 1000 pf for the electrode set then the distributed capacitance of the secondary coil must equal 1000 pf. You can alter wire sizes to get the desired step-up ratio you want to go for. Smaller wire sizes means more wounds on the core as the distributed capacitance value is directly related to the physical size of the wire being used, the larger the wire size the higher the distributed capacitance and so forth but equal less physical wounds on the core.
5. For the wires used for the secondary and chokes use resistance wire, like ​constantan-45.
6. Chokes must have a greater capacitance value than the electrode pair. That is to say the energy storage capabilities of the chokes must be greater than the energy storage capabilities of the electrode pair. This determines the turn count of the chokes as you will have a minimum turn count to have greater energy storage capability than that of the electrode pair. Note the greater it is the faster it will charge the cell.
7. Only one VIC per electrode pair. If you have 10 tubes you will need 10 VIC's. But the good news is all the VIC's can be powered by the same power supply but everything must be perfect so they all go into resonance at the same frequency.

Other rules and things of importance:
1. The maximum pulse rate is twice the resonant frequency. Example if you find resonance at 500 Hz then the maximum you can pulse it is 1000 Hz.
2. Note the high side PWM connects to the top side of the primary and the Lawton circuit to the bottom side of the primary. With just the Lawton circuit once you find resonance that's it, all you can do from that point is adjust the pulsing rate. With the addition of the high side PWM you can now adjust the voltage once resonance is found.
3. This is best done on a drawing program of some sort to easily get all the values needed and be able to swap wires sizes without having to build it and test it manually. As you can see I draw them in AutoCAD when designing the VIC transformers prior to building them.
4. No using neutral plates! That messes up capacitance values.

Hope this helps as it is a lot of work getting these things built correctly. Best of luck to you,
h2opower