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Overunity Machines Forum



Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

Started by X00013, March 17, 2009, 06:27:33 AM

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TinselKoala

I'll be more than happy to apologize, if and when I see some real data that even hints at a possible gain. Don't forget, Mylow now has 8 different configurations, with many different kinds of magnets, that he claims have "run". I know that between you, me, CLaNZeR, and others, we've tried hundreds if not thousands of configurations, and I know we have more systematic approaches and better data gathering techniques. Why have we never seen a real gain?
It would seem to me that, as one varied magnet configs, one should encounter some little gain, that would add a tiny thrust, perhaps not enough for a self starter but at least it should show up as an increased rundown time or a faster equilibrium speed when externally driven. And then one could vary the position of one or more magnets and the effect might get slightly better or worse. Then one could zero in on an optimum configuration. So there should be some sign of progressive improvement, until finally a self-starter is achieved--if only it were possible.
The problem is that everybody who has actually used real objective data gathering means and repeatable starting conditions (rather than relying on "mMr. Hand" and subjective impressions) has not been able to get any configuration to produce that first bit of positive gain, in any configuration. And Mylow shows no sign of anything but subjective impressions, then shows up with 8, count'em, 8 different configs that work.

wattsup

@PL

"Why couldn't Mylow just take the machine apart toward the end? Very simple task. Still no sincerity."

Again free talk as usual. I have not seen the last videos yet so I am just talking about your last post which explains the problem very well. You state that he could have taken the machine apart. That is fine and obvious. By then you add the last sentence. Why????? What makes you an authority on if Mylow is sincere or not. This is the free shots I am talking about that will stop. You have no right to poke and take light stabs, no one does.

Now based on your last post, have it your way then. We'll add your name to the list.

As for @stefan, he already offered to do this but did not know I had already started the process a few days ago. lol

@all

I have been thinking and thinking and testing with my wheel to see why Mylow can do this and why we are having a harder time and I think I have finally figured it out but activating it on my Pizza wheel will be difficult because of all these neos but I gather not impossible, but I will have much better chances when I get my real aluminum wheels on Monday.

But to the builders, think about this.

We all know that when we put too many rotor segments around the wheel, we lose the individual segment motion and produce what I call the magnetic crowning effect where the magnetism is like totally the same around the whole wheel. And therein hides the answer.

I think that Mylow manages to do is put his rotors in such a manner that he is just a tad away from creating the crowning effect, which is bad for forward propulsion movement. So his rotors are set-up just off the crown effect. It is the stator that is making the final addition that sends the rotors in and out of the crown effect. When the rotors are out of the effect, their polarity exerts directionality, when the rotors fall into the crown effect because the stator now moves to a connecting position, the rotors crown instead of producing a sticky on the stator. When they crown, their effect is neutral permitting the rotor to pass the stator as if they were not even there.

I think this is where we have to concentrate our skills to perfect or permit the stator to make the crown connection because this is exactly like a magnetic on/off switch. Crown on, let stator pass sticky, crown off, push wheel further.

Much more fun to come.

chrisC

Quote from: TinselKoala on May 03, 2009, 12:06:33 PM
I'll be more than happy to apologize, if and when I see some real data that even hints at a possible gain. Don't forget, Mylow now has 8 different configurations, with many different kinds of magnets, that he claims have "run". I know that between you, me, CLaNZeR, and others, we've tried hundreds if not thousands of configurations, and I know we have more systematic approaches and better data gathering techniques. Why have we never seen a real gain?
It would seem to me that, as one varied magnet configs, one should encounter some little gain, that would add a tiny thrust, perhaps not enough for a self starter but at least it should show up as an increased rundown time or a faster equilibrium speed when externally driven. And then one could vary the position of one or more magnets and the effect might get slightly better or worse. Then one could zero in on an optimum configuration. So there should be some sign of progressive improvement, until finally a self-starter is achieved--if only it were possible.
The problem is that everybody who has actually used real objective data gathering means and repeatable starting conditions (rather than relying on "mMr. Hand" and subjective impressions) has not been able to get any configuration to produce that first bit of positive gain, in any configuration. And Mylow shows no sign of anything but subjective impressions, then shows up with 8, count'em, 8 different configs that work.

Thank you for your reply. Yes, you're right that so far no one has been able to even get it to loop once! For the $120 I spent on parts and the little time I put together a simple configuration it was frustrating to say the least but I did not put a lot of time. Maybe MyLow is one of these (savant?) that have special magnetic properties they can 'impart' onto things they touch? I had remembered seeing on TV an old man in Malaysia who can stick metallic objects to his body (up to 20 pounds or something) and that ability was passed down to his grandchildren but not to his children.

Hope others have better luck and ability.

cheers
chrisC

TinselKoala

Quote from: pinestone on May 03, 2009, 11:55:18 AM
Putting a load on the generator circuit is the equivalent of applying friction...
Most of the generated current is dissipated as heat.

In your example, the light bulb is the load. If you removed the light from your bicycle generator, it would be much easier to pedal.
The greater the load (low impedance), the more work you will have to do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_load

I'm not saying Mylow's invention couldn't generate electricity or do real work, but in it's current form-factor, I doubt it would.

It might make a good fan... ;)

MyLOW's device, as shown, violates the principle of Conservation of Momentum. There apparently isn't a "back-reaction" from the rotor to the stator assembly. It takes a bit of torque to accelerate that heavy disk as quickly as it is shown in the latest "last" video. This torque does not seem to affect the stator assembly by pushing against it.
So, one could use the MyLOW wheel, for example, to as a fuelless way to control spacecraft attitude. Let the wheel spin up--reactionlessly--and then brake it mechanically. The wheel's momentum, that we got for nothing, will then be transferred thru the mechanical brake to the surrounding structure. Voila! You now have a reactionless system to rotate your spacecraft. Now configure the Mylow wheel to eject some reaction mass, say water, that you dribble onto it from the center axis. The fleeing water will produce a linear thrust, again for free, except for the water.
The possibilities are endless. Too bad.

PaulLowrance

Quote from: wattsup on May 03, 2009, 12:12:03 PMWhat makes you an authority on if Mylow is sincere or not. This is the free shots I am talking about that will stop. You have no right to poke and take light stabs, no one does.

Logic does. A video is not evidence. Mylow has only shown videos. It is logical that a person who sincerely want's to provide proof would have offered some form of proof.

PL