Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

[Pirate88179]

@ Stefan:

I am very sorry to hear about you Aunt.  You have my condolences.

Bill

[TinselKoala]

Then Faraday was wrong when he rotated the magnet with the disc? He actually did not measure current when he rotated the magnet and disc together?
There are no Eddy currents generated because of the relationship between the rotor magnets and the disc?

Faraday was the first to offer a solution to his paradox but some say he couldn't prove it experimentally. His discarded solution was the flux cannot rotate about it's own axis.

Anyone with remaining Mylow motor attempts can prove or disprove this. Place a Hall -Effect probe under the disc while stationary and then moving. Leave the stator magnet out of the picture first. At that point you almost have a basic homopolar generator.

The idea of a delay is kewl but why would there be a delay. Wouldn't it be more redirection because you have a rotating disc in a stationary field?

Please, no one repeat the stanza about the rotor magnets are not moving in relation to the disc. That is obvious. What most cannot get into their thick heads is the flux is not part of the magnet. Forget why Newton fails here.

Enough to be flamed, I'm sure 

Have at it folks!

I've brought up this issue of a possible homopolar eddy effect from the rotor magnets myself, and I may even be detecting it. But there's a problem: In the frame of the disk, there should be no current--only in the off-disk reference frame can a homopolar current be detected or used. Tom Valone, in an elegant series of experiments with a voltmeter actually mounted to a homopolar generator, proved that simultaneous measurements taken in the lab frame (from traditional axle and edge contacts with an external circuit) and in the rotating disk frame, from the LED voltmeter on the disk, showed a voltage off the disk but not on it.
Weird, huh? Of course the magnet and the disk can be rotating together, but apparently for the voltage to be detected you have to be off the disk. What does this mean for possible homopolar eddys from magnets on the disk? Maybe for them to exist, other than "potentially", there needs to be an external stationary circuit portion. I'm still investigating. I should be able to detect drag from homopolar eddys if they are there, with my instrumentation.
Regardless, all eddys, without external varying fields or other moving mechanical parts, will always be loss mechanisms and cannot be driving Mylow's disk.

[BEP]

And when the Eddys are out of the way, from the disc's point of view, what is left?
Eddy currents aren't the only thing that happens when Al is moving in a stationary field. It is in Cu but not Al. Even though 'magnetic current' is a hot issue, Al conducts it when moving in relation to mag flux. It already has some ferromagnetic properties, as all metals do, but it 'conducts' that flux when moving in relation to a mag flux.

As weird as it may sound, I don't expect Newtonian between the stator and rotor. I only expect what has already been claimed. "The faster the rotor spins the more it pulls straight down on the stator. And - the closer the stator is to the rotor the faster the rotor spins.


I must say, it sure sounds like you have done your homework - refreshing.

[hansvonlieven]

@ Stefan,

Please accept my condolences about your aunt. Let us hope she has departed to a better place.

Peace brother,

Hans von Lieven

[joe_1001101]

"The faster the rotor spins the more it pulls straight down on the stator. And - the closer the stator is to the rotor the faster the rotor spins."

It would be GREAT to see some type of weight scale underneath the stator magnet side of that assembly, and watch the reading in operation!

Joe