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Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

Started by X00013, March 17, 2009, 06:27:33 AM

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fleubis

Quote from: joe_1001101 on May 05, 2009, 11:07:37 PM
It would be GREAT to see some type of weight scale underneath the stator magnet side of that assembly, and watch the reading in operation!

Joe

Actually, the way Mylow has designed his stator assembly, one could insert a strain gauge fairly easily which could calculate the weight as the stator passes over the magnets. It's an interesting idea.

lumen

QuoteWhat most cannot get into their thick heads is the flux is not part of the magnet.

The flux is directly connected to the magnet. You can try a simple experiment! Simply build a tiny homopolar motor using a small battery and wire and a large flat magnet. Place some tape on the wire at the top to create a fan in the air, put the whole unit on a block of styrofoam and float it in a bucket.

You will see the magnet trying to rotate opposite the wire rotation. Building a homopolar generator is simply the reverse process and suffers Lenzes Law and if the field was stationary the magnet would not turn.

I think delay may not describe well the effect on the Mylow platter. Temporary resistance to field change may describe it better.


pinestone

Quote from: BEP on May 05, 2009, 09:57:39 PM
Then Faraday was wrong when he rotated the magnet with the disc? He actually did not measure current when he rotated the magnet and disc together?
There are no Eddy currents generated because of the relationship between the rotor magnets and the disc?

Faraday was the first to offer a solution to his paradox but some say he couldn't prove it experimentally. His discarded solution was the flux cannot rotate about it's own axis.

Anyone with remaining Mylow motor attempts can prove or disprove this. Place a Hall -Effect probe under the disc while stationary and then moving. Leave the stator magnet out of the picture first. At that point you almost have a basic homopolar generator.

The idea of a delay is kewl but why would there be a delay. Wouldn't it be more redirection because you have a rotating disc in a stationary field?

Please, no one repeat the stanza about the rotor magnets are not moving in relation to the disc. That is obvious. What most cannot get into their thick heads is the flux is not part of the magnet. Forget why Newton fails here.

Enough to be flamed, I'm sure  ;D

Have at it folks!

But there is rotation. A magnetic field exerts a torque on ferric matter.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/Hbase/magnetic/magmom.html

This natural function of magnetism follows the right hand rule, and can be described as a gyroscopic force.

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2008JETPL..87..381Z

You can see how this force affects ferro-nanoparticles at the molecular level.

http://www.nanomagnetics.us/anothermoebius3.jpg

Mylow may have found a way to utilize this phenomenon by 'riding the edge' of the stator and rotor magnets fields. The Bloch wall region is neither north or south- it's an area where north 'twists' into south-

http://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/sjldzt



ellubpt

I am posting here again to say something important.
In nature and in science there is equilibrium.
My statements , taken as over the top critisism were issued in response to what I felt was over top statements from Sterling and Mylow.Equally absurd.
I do not see how what I said was any more outrageous than what they said.
See if you can understand that.

Also. many good people with sense and knowledge are avoiding this place now, because of the fact that they feel that their comments might not be of the "cheerleading" type they feel is only allowed here.
Has anyone read the Steorn forum comments on this?
Why no complaint there?

Now a public press conference is to be scheduled. Expecting no skeptisism?

So we get to the point, through censorship, where everyone agrees the motor runs . Now What?

What is the end?  Censor all skeptics and then what?

I have many experiments with what I saw,many results and observations. But, I believe that the presentation was over the top, so I will not post them.
What is the gain in the community?

What was the original goal afterall of open source?

BEP

Quote from: pinestone on May 06, 2009, 12:15:55 AM
But there is rotation. A magnetic field exerts a torque on ferric matter.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/Hbase/magnetic/magmom.html

That requires the flow of electric current

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This natural function of magnetism follows the right hand rule, and can be described as a gyroscopic force.

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2008JETPL..87..381Z

Yes, but how can this produce a non-zero torque on the disc?

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You can see how this force affects ferro-nanoparticles at the molecular level.

http://www.nanomagnetics.us/anothermoebius3.jpg

I love that person's work but until I see how those photos are produced I can only assume it is for the same reasons magnetic fields look weird on a particular TV screen. This is fine for showing the separation called the Bloch wall but [I suspect] it also requires the application of moving charges.

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Mylow may have found a way to utilize this phenomenon by 'riding the edge' of the stator and rotor magnets fields. The Bloch wall region is neither north or south- it's an area where north 'twists' into south-

http://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/sjldzt

I'll agree this may be possible. The magnetic-only equivalent of a worm-drive? There have been a few published experiments indicating a simple magnetic dipole is a vortex like structure. Howard wasn't the only one. All indicated it was still static, no rotation.

The only place where rotation is apparent is during the transition between the Bloch and Neel walls. Since that has only been seen at the micro level I'm having trouble applying the concept here.

The reason for my rant remains. People need to understand the fact that the magnetic flux is not produced by a magnet. The field is but that is like saying you are measuring a measurement. The lines don't exist unless you throw iron filings or some other such material in the mix. This solves the paradox and explains how permanent magnets are magnetic without current flow from one end to the other.

There are great and widely accepted arguments to counter my statements. No need to repeat them here. We all understand them. To me, the fact remains a magnet to the magnetic flux is the same as a lens is to light.

It doesn't matter if you believe this or not. Take a moment and look at these problems using my perspective. Things start jiving.