The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"

[eldarion]

@eldarion

how about this

Am I right in assuming the diagram in the above quote (need to go to the quote to see diagram) is correct, in regards to what Otto is basically doing ?

My understanding of what this circuit should do in a traditional electrical sense is:

1. The pulse is OFF, the 12volts goes through the coil and lights the bulb.
2. When pulse in ON, the lamp is shorted out, and goes OFF. Because the lamp is shorted out there is no voltage drop across the lamp so the coil sees a larger voltage across its terminals which means a larger current and hence a larger magnetic field in the coil.
3. When the pulse goes OFF,  the lamp is no longer shorted out, causing a voltage drop across the lamp, which in turn means a lower voltage across the coil terminals. This means part of the magnetic field of the coil must collapse rapidly. A rapidly collapsing magnetic field will put a reverse voltage spike onto the wire.
4. The voltage spike will dissipate as a momentary high current through the lamp, causing the lamp to momentarily glow much brighter.

There will be an optimum point where the frequency is such that the OFF period is just long enough to allow the coil to reach maximum magnetic field for the applied voltage before switching off. In the same way that you don't see an AC supplied 50Hz tungstun filament light flicker, you will not see the flickering of the bulb.

Expected observations from a tradition electronics view point should be:

1. A cheap volt meter will read the voltage as the momentary collapse voltage; possibly as high as 30volts. It won't give you a correct averaged over time volts reading.
2. The persistence of image on the retina will give the impression that with the pulser the light is brighter than without the pulser.

From what you describe the theoretical observations appear to match your real world observations ?

Have you confirmed that if you keep the above circuit the same but have the coil no longer wrapped around the central wire that the observations are different ?

I do believe totally in the TPU existence but do not understand the significance you attach to this circuit and observations. I would appreciate if you could expand on your findings and thinking.

Cheers, Bob

Bob,

I am having the same problem.

Otto, Mannix, et al.: What is the effect supposed to be, for example, on a scope?  Everything I have done has shown no anomaly.  I can post some pics if you like of the coil setup.  The only difference is that I am using an IRF640 which can handle higher current and shut off faster than an IRF840, so I would think that it would be better!

Is the fact that I am using speaker wire a problem?  It is the same multistranded copper wire as could be found in cheap lamp wire.  Do I need more copper strands in the collector wire?

I really want to get this thing working!

Eldarion

[otto]

Hello all,

WOOOW,

things are moving!!!!  Finally!!! Im happy again!!!!!

@Mr. Mannix,

you nailed it!!!!

Something from almost nothing or to say it better something from a little collector coil and hugh kicks from only 50 turns of wires, yes, you all missed it. Yesterday I was going back a lot of steps and made again my little test.

End result: depending on used frequency I had kicks over 400V on my scope. You dont trust me??? Tomorrow you will have all the nessesary pictures to make you own tests!! Of course I will try to make a photo of my kicks.

But this thes is also the evidence that we, I mean you, have to rewind your TPUs and think in another way.

@IS

this will be more and more amazing

@Dan

exactly, very nice picture

@Bob

a little question, if allowed:

What will happen if I connect my bulb not to the minus but to the plus (power supply)??

To say it in a few words: When the bulb is connected as in my picture. The oscillator is OFF. I have a bulb lighted at 12V. The oscillator is ON. I have, depending on used frequencies a light bulb shining with 12V or, when I change the frequency, a bright shining bulb with 24V. My coil acts as a particle accelerator and my 1 turn collector coil amplifies my kicks.

I hate theories but when you make my test you can see the clear evidence of my words.

Otto

[otto]

Hello all again,

guys, please, forget the old TPUs. Forget how you wound them. It was a totally wrong way. Youre loosing your time and your hard earned money!!!!

If possible, please NO PMs and NO MAILS. I have NOT so much time to answer. Sorry.

Just make the little amazing test. This test will show you how to make your new TPUs.

They are easy to built, fast to built and extremly cheap.

Otto

[bob.rennips]

@eldarion

how about this

Am I right in assuming the diagram in the above quote (need to go to the quote to see diagram) is correct, in regards to what Otto is basically doing ?

My understanding of what this circuit should do in a traditional electrical sense is:

1. The pulse is OFF, the 12volts goes through the coil and lights the bulb.
2. When pulse in ON, the lamp is shorted out, and goes OFF. Because the lamp is shorted out there is no voltage drop across the lamp so the coil sees a larger voltage across its terminals which means a larger current and hence a larger magnetic field in the coil.
3. When the pulse goes OFF,  the lamp is no longer shorted out, causing a voltage drop across the lamp, which in turn means a lower voltage across the coil terminals. This means part of the magnetic field of the coil must collapse rapidly. A rapidly collapsing magnetic field will put a reverse voltage spike onto the wire.
4. The voltage spike will dissipate as a momentary high current through the lamp, causing the lamp to momentarily glow much brighter.

There will be an optimum point where the frequency is such that the OFF period is just long enough to allow the coil to reach maximum magnetic field for the applied voltage before switching off. In the same way that you don't see an AC supplied 50Hz tungstun filament light flicker, you will not see the flickering of the bulb.

Expected observations from a tradition electronics view point should be:

1. A cheap volt meter will read the voltage as the momentary collapse voltage; possibly as high as 30volts. It won't give you a correct averaged over time volts reading.
2. The persistence of image on the retina will give the impression that with the pulser the light is brighter than without the pulser.

From what you describe the theoretical observations appear to match your real world observations ?

Have you confirmed that if you keep the above circuit the same but have the coil no longer wrapped around the central wire that the observations are different ?

I do believe totally in the TPU existence but do not understand the significance you attach to this circuit and observations. I would appreciate if you could expand on your findings and thinking.

Cheers, Bob

JUST DO THE TEST ok?

Thanks Mannix your comment is true to form.

But it would have been more helpful if you could have confirmed if this is the correct diagram as per my very first question.

So is this the right diagram or not ?

Have you tried pulsing with the wire NOT going through the center of your coil.
What different effects do you observe ?

JUST DO THIS TEST.

I have now done this and there is NO DIFFERENCE.

[innovation_station]

@ everyone i will be over time repairing some of my more important posts i would ask the newer people to have a look at after i replace it sorry for removing but i was confused at that time

@ otto i cant wait

@ everyone it seams the learning never ends

IS TEAM!!