The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"

[gn0stik]

One of the things I didn't understand with Steven Mark's use of baling wire as a coil was:

How could you make a working coil using baling wire when baling wire isn't insulated ?

The answer is because you are not making a working coil!!

The baling wire is used as an easy way to make a tube of metal of variable diameter and variable height. Therefore the wire used must be uninsulated and conductive. In other words it's used to make a collector tube. Once the working dimensions are known a copper tube or steel tube of the right dimensions could be used.

I realised this as I was trying to make different sizes of copper tube to try in my kick units. I was thinking this is going to be extremely tedious cutting all these different sizes of copper pipe. What I need is a way of easily making variable sized tubes....

Basically Steven Mark was cutting the wire to reduce the height of his collector pipe until he found a point where the most charge was collected.

Comments please...

If it's being used as the collector, then I agree that's probably the case. It could also simply be a loose spiral around the outside of the primary coil, for testing. Of course in a collector plate you want surface area, so the ideal item would be a tube, like one of those toroidal cake pans or something, separated by rubber grommets.

[Liberty]

Perhaps if the iron wire (bailing wire) was being used in a fashion like is shown on the basic version (that uses two horseshoe magnets) on the right side of these plans for the aerial generator.  It shows two horseshoe magnets with iron wire connected to them.  This is a picture from the Aerial Generator patent that shows how the iron wire was used to produce power.

[Liberty]

I narrowed the picture down to this picture.  The figure to the right of the horseshoe setup is the picture of the overvoltage relay construction.

[bob.diroto]

Hi all,

Perhaps there may also be some relevance in the descriptions in this thread that in my opinion ( not from Steven)  could be at play here . If you recall Steven saying that tesla discovered that potentials  that are seperate from each other can coexist  in the same wire. I quote from Steven("I tried it and he is right").
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1165.msg9016/topicseen.html#msg9016
In particular the diagram that is animated with a paint brush shows several aspects of what may be relevant in Stevens invention.
Lindsay Mannix

animated diagram is here:
http://artpad.art.com/gallery/?ivwok27luvg

"Potentials that are separate from each other can coexist".
From what I understand, if you set up a standing wave in a wire, you get different voltages along the wire depending on how far from a node you are ? I think this is why comms lines are terminated so that the line appears as an infinite length of wire to the signal. To prevent unwanted reflection of the signal back onto the comms line.

Looking at the paintbrush picture I guess the correlation is that there are opposing signals creating a moving standing wave ?

[bob.diroto]

One of the things I didn't understand with Steven Mark's use of baling wire as a coil was:

How could you make a working coil using baling wire when baling wire isn't insulated ?

The answer is because you are not making a working coil!!

The baling wire is used as an easy way to make a tube of metal of variable diameter and variable height. Therefore the wire used must be uninsulated and conductive. In other words it's used to make a collector tube. Once the working dimensions are known a copper tube or steel tube of the right dimensions could be used.

I realised this as I was trying to make different sizes of copper tube to try in my kick units. I was thinking this is going to be extremely tedious cutting all these different sizes of copper pipe. What I need is a way of easily making variable sized tubes....

Basically Steven Mark was cutting the wire to reduce the height of his collector pipe until he found a point where the most charge was collected.

Comments please...

Perhaps this is why, when Steven cut open his largest device for the examiner, that there was seen a cork-like material.

IF he used the baling wire as a sort of 'tube' with which he surrounded his KICK GENERATING WIRE then cork material would be the best way to keep this 'tube' at a specific distance from the primary.

From Roland Schinzinger's report on the TPU:
"After the test the inventor cut the toroidally shaped device into segments (though not the controller box located at the center of the device). These samples consisted of an array of circumferentially arranged coils and wires grouped around a core made of a cork like substance."

Tao, I think you are spot on with this observation about the cork. I hadn't thought that the distance from the kick wire to the collector could be significant. I'll add this to my list of parameters to try out to determine the best geometry for the kick unit.

I have to say that Roland Schinzinger's description couldn't be more vague if he tried!!

"These samples consisted of an array of circumferentially arranged coils and wires grouped around a core made of a cork like substance."

Dissecting his statement:

Array - does this mean  "A rectangular arrangement of quantities in rows and columns, as in a matrix." This is the mathematical defn found in a dictionary. Or does it just mean 'many' or 'large number'.

circumferentially arranged coils - if it's a coil of uninsulated iron wire then this would read "circumferentially arranged tubes". Note there is no mention of orientation or these 'coils/tubes', which is an obvious thing to include, so by ommission, the orientation of the 'coils/tubes' is significant.

And the stated physical orientation between these 'coils', wires and cork is totally ambiguous.

Unfortunately work is snoballing at the moment, not least because I've been putting off completing some projects in order to research the Steven Mark device!