The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"

[Elvis Oswald]

There are no moving parts in the device.  The rotating magnetic field is from the current flowing.

[bob.diroto]

So Bob is just trying to find the gap/method of turning electostatic-type radiant charge into a rotating magnetic field and hence getting the output that Steven gets...

Thank you Tao, exactly!

I for one think that when the penny drops as to what is happening to make this device work most people here will say, including me:
'Oh, I now see how this works now, the problem was I was assuming...'

We need to challenge our assumptions in order to make the leap to a better way of generating electricity, which is where the thought experiment comes in.

Let's say we had 50 kick units around the circumference being driven in turn at 175khz. That's is rotating charge at (175/50)*60 = 210,000 rpm.

[bob.diroto]

Hi Tao,

That magnetic amp. is interesting, more for the way it uses standard components in a novell way (well, novell to me anyway!). I'm not sure it's specifically relevant to the TPU because the magnification is at the expence of the AC input field. I think too much energy would be wasted in the iron cores ? I wonder what an electrostatic equivalent would look like ?  But you certainly are a gold mine of material, thoughts, knowledge and inspiration! I can't thank you enough! Perhaps this is one for the backburner, the unconscious does a great job of assimilating new material and allowing the relevant to materialise as a thought from midair.

I also have another observation concerning the 'control units'.

Did you notice that all of the components for the control unit are in the center of the large coil BUT two capacitors are placed right next to the coil ? If I was designing this I'd want everything mounted in the center with socket and plugs to all the other connection wires. It would make sense and this appears to be what he was trying to do. Therefore I believe the driving capacitors have to be mounted near the coil because they MUST BE as near as possible to the 'kick units'.

Is this relevant or just an adhoc design anomaly ?

[gn0stik]

Well, I for one think you've hit on something here Tao.

Sorry I haven't been paticipating folks, I've been going back and reading, and re-reading the basics.
I think we've gotten off course, we've learned a lot about frequencies, and resonant coils, and believe we could probably collectively built a moray type device or a vta type device. However I'm starting to rethink my position that the Bill Beaty stuff is 100% applicable to SM's TPU.
Some of it is obviously applicable, but I think it was a relatively small amount, and much of it could server to distract us. For this reason, I've taken what we've learned and gone back to the source, Steven Himself. And reading the postings of the people he praised. I think we've lost a considerable resource in offending him. I think it was unavoidable, since in any forum there will be detractors, theres no way for us keep out undesirables. We can only get rid of them once they have shown themselves. The people who are continuing on here, are obviously the dedicated researchers.

Having gone back and re-read all of SM's original posts via Mannix, we have a lot more info than we realize, but I think we need to re focus.
And since Mannix has started to post again, perhaps we can re-kindle that relationship and continue moving on the correct path.

Perhaps we could start a new private thread, that only the really dedicated researchers can particpate in (bob, tao, stephan, liberty, elvis, and myself, and of course Lindsay, I don't intend to overlook anyone). We can gather all of the the information we know is relevant thus far, and the stuff we are reasonable sure is relevant and post it there. This thread is getting a bit long. This would allow us a good brainstorming environment to lay down some facts, free from derision, and negativity..... thoughts? Stephan? all?

Perhaps Mr. Mannix can feel more comfortable posting some of the other information SM sent him in that thread.

I've also been working on building my pulsed em kundel motor variant. Which also explains part of my non participation... I've been a bit distracted. Too many projects. 

Reading through Steven via Mannix's old posts... Something began to trouble me. We've forgotten about some information Steven had given us early on.

From Steven: on page 7

Let us say that you have a magnetic field perhaps it is only a small permanent magnet. Now, you have a single copper wire twelve inches long. If you move the magnet across the surface of the wire from left to right at a certain speed you create an electron flow which is DC and it has a power potential based on how strong the field is and how fast the magnet if moved. So, if you increase the size of the magnet or the speed it moves you create a larger flow of electrons, larger as in higher voltage or more currant.
Everyone tells us that the earth's magnetic field is measured as being too insignificant to generate any useable power, that is not so.
Let me give you something to think about...  If you had a short wire and you moved a magnet across it you would always have limited potential because the length of wire was so short. OK now what if we increase the length of the wire to many miles in length even with a very weak magnetic field moving across the wire you still have a much greater potential flow of power available.  If we put it into a perspective of power per inch it may be easier to understand.
If you have a small magnetic field moving across a wire twelve inches long it can generate an electron flow equal to lets say one millivolt per inch. If you move the magnet twelve inches at the same speed you get 12 millivolts as you transgress the twelve inches of wire. Understand that I am trying to convey a principal that you can understand for use in the future.
So, you have a wire twelve inches long and you can make 12 millivolts moving a magnet across it. If you have a wire 1000 feet long and you move the same small magnetic field across the length of it you can create much more voltage potential perhaps 12,000 millivolts lets say.
So, you have managed to generate a significant amount of electric power with a weak magnetic force.
OK, how does this help us? where am I going with this?
Suppose you have 1,000 pieces of wire twelve inches long and you run the same weak magnetic field over them all at the same time..... you get the same flow of electrons.
If the wires are run in series then you will get the 12,000 millivolts etc. If you connect the wires in parallel you will get higher current but lower voltage.  However, the power potential is the same whether you run the wires in series or parallel.
If you know how to find the circuit potential, you tune into the frequency and you have enough short pieces of wire you can convert as much power as you wish in a given space.
    Things are more complex then what I have told you but I am just trying to give you an idea of how the technology works.

So one of these coils is made from many small pieces of conductor, and is in effect many small coils. How does this apply to what you just posted? I believe in effect, what you have is perhaps hundreds of coils arranged in a modified mag-amp.

Look at Schizinger's report in light of this...

"After the test the inventor cut the toroidally shaped device into segments (though not the controller box located at the center of the device). These samples consisted of an array of circumferentially arranged coils and wires grouped around a core made of a cork like substance."

Circumferentially arranged coils makes a bit more sense now.

it's the "....and wires" part  that irritates the hell out of me.

[Liberty]

On Steven Marks second device (without tape on it), he said that it is based on the knowledge of coils and the special interaction between the coils. 

It seems to all go back to bailing wire... with the magnets.