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Overunity Machines Forum



The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"

Started by Mannix, January 30, 2006, 06:18:53 PM

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dean_mcgowan

I don't really want to keep defending myself here .. there is no other motive than to participate, I am sorry if you interpret it as anything other than that. If my level of understanding is incomplete or off the beaten track then just ignore the post, however i would prefer clear information as you have been good enough to offer. I have consumed a lot of information over the years now and I am not exaggerating, I have read many technical articles and many esoteric articles and I am attempting to take a wholistic approach to the matter. Ok I can see how it may infuriate you that i may not be smack on with conventional terminology, and I also dont see myself as Kosol device devoutee either. I am not an expert in any particular field, though neither were tesla or any other innovators. What i do have a very good track record on is trend perception and preciptence. I have a very good knack for finding needles in the haystack. Call me lucky. I am purely putting effort in and expressing my thoughts.

I do understand what capacitance is and what diodes and resistors do within a circuit. I also understand that much of the community is at odds with the roles they play using differring interpretations of electricity. I dont argue that quotes such as splitting the negative or the true direction of electrical flow are either correct or incorrect.

There is no hidden agenda here, please accept that as the truth.

dean_mcgowan

I dont think i tried to say that there was no capacitance, I think i stated that there is inherently a natural capacitor built into the system and that that should be enough and more likely to be much faster at switching (maybe under the right phase conditions) and that it is more a matter of tuning the mass and frequency within the system. The digital analog analogy was maybe a poor way to illustrate what i was trying to communicate. I think what i really meant was that there are features/qualities in a valve that get lost onces translated into digital equivalents and taking a step back, that there is a natural capacitor within the circuit that we may be ignoring and not making use off as we see a more tangible result using a contructed one.

dean_mcgowan

Here is a valid question.

How much energy crosses into the circuit reliably each time you initiate a spark ?

My thoughts were that environmental conditions would make this a highly unrealiable or repeatable factor in the system. I did not try to negate its purpose within the system. Though having thought about this from a quantum point of view, lets say that this too is already happening when taking the example of the hydrogen atom and how the electron state is described when it seemingly disappears and manifests as 2 seperate spin quarks one acheving a higher state of energy level and the other a lower state. Maybe the waterfall type flow/effect that we are attempting to initiate here using the spark could be inherent as well.

Does a river flow because we decide to push water down the hill or force the water up into the clouds to be taken to the mountain reservoir, or do we simply place a water wheel in the river ?

dean_mcgowan

Quote from: Kosh on July 11, 2006, 12:56:58 PM
This is an interesting sub-harmonic effect:

http://www.world-science.net/othernews/060706_violin.htm


Yes, Great article.

Can certainly see how it applies to this forum. I was kind of thinking in these terms when discussing swtiching etc and how anomolous effect can be created within a finely tuned system. Take for example that plucking the string essentially creates the most obvious effect of setting in motion a simple wave though as described in the artice she gently applies pressure to a harmonic point on the string(enough pressure to allow the initial wave to continue to propogate and the secondary wave or harmonic as they describe to be added) hence causing the anomolous third effect of the subharmonic to become apparent through phase cancellation/conjugation. This waves shape may not sound like any particular instrument either i suspect.  It would be very interesting to if we could find the total input and output energy values as well.. she may just be a human zpe machine .. hehehe :P

tishatang

Hi all,

Links to explain maybe how Tesla, Moray and Mark get the power gain.

http://www.energyscience.org.uk/le/Le27/Berlin.htm

Aspden proposes energy gain from concentric capacitor.  Mark TPU has similar form.
Capacitor plates could be on inside and outside edges?

http://www.energyscience.org.uk/le/Le27/Notes.html

This second link of his notes explains anomalous gain of power when concentric capacitor is negatively pulsed on the discharge cycle.  read all of the notes as different explanations are given that may strike a chord within and give us a clue on how to design our own device.

Here are some quotes:

Now, in this brief note, which I admit I present as possibly only of passing interest, I only wish to draw attention to a feature of the Piggin thesis that I find curious as it may have some bearing upon the claim I am making in presenting that BERLIN LECTURE. Remember that in that Lecture I am suggesting that the aether can import energy anomalously into a concentric cylindrical capacitor. Critics will ask for evidence in support, so I feel obliged to point to anything that can help in this quest.

So all I intend to present here is a copy of page 105 from Dr. Piggin's thesis, which introduces his Fig. 49, and couple this with a quotation concerning that Fig. 49 that appears on page 100 of the thesis. I leave others who may read this to infer what they may, but say further that in his experiment Piggin applies an electrical pulse to charge the capacitor and follows this by an opposite polarity pulse to force its rapid discharge, after which, for some mysterious reason, that capacitor begins to recharge of its own accord. Can the inertial energy of the aether that I discuss in the BERLIN LECTURE be feeding in by a sub-microsecond delay?
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To put this in perspective, if this capacitor energy escalation theme is a valid proposition, one can begin to contemplate a practical application based on the above 50 kW power output from a pair of 1 nanofarad capacitors. Such a capacitor using air as dielectric would need an electrode separation of the order of 1 cm to withstand the 25,000 volt charge. If it were to comprise two concentric cylinders, one having an internal diameter of 20 cm and the other an external diameter of 19 cm, and an overall length of 50 cm, then its capacitance would be 2.2 nanofarad and two such capacitors would only take up a fraction of the space assigned to the engine compartment of an ordinary automobile. Yet the potential power rating, based on that 2.2 nanofarad value would be in excess of 100 kW, which is an acceptable level for such an application. The equipment needed to generate a 25 kV capacitor priming voltage, taken together with a standard electrical car battery to feed in the initial charge of the capacitors plus the inductor/transformer units which form the resonant circuit and provide a lower voltage transformer output need be no larger in volume than the capacitors. One is then left with the need for an electric motor that can provide the mechanical drive for the automobile, this being standard technology but the greater weight factor in terms of drive power generated and so the primary design criterion that could limit vehicle performance.

One can, however, be sure that if the new technology implied can meet the requirements of powering an automobile, it can be even more advantageous in large scale electric power generation for domestic and industrial use as well as in ship propulsion.

Accordingly, the scientific principle involved warrants the necessary research to verify or disprove what is suggested and, if viable, ascertain such criteria as may impose limitations on performance.

[H. ASPDEN: 17th March 2002]

Maybe this is a piece of the puzzle and how these devices work?

Tishatang