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The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"

Started by Mannix, January 30, 2006, 06:18:53 PM

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c0mster

Just a thought to consider here. If according to the experiments performed in this video http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-721789270445596549&q=tesla Tesla was working with longitudinal waves not transverse waves which to me means that the current form of induction or coupling in a standard transformer only applies to the well known transverse wave. A little more on the waves: http://www.kettering.edu/~drussell/Demos/waves/wavemotion.html. If we study the new transformer Tesla spoke of you will notice that the design is opposite to that of a standard transformer in that it is loosely coupled and the secondary coil is one wire in width but tall. The experiments I did last night involved using an air core coil to sniff or feel around the thick primary coil. <see cmnet.ca/projects under high voltage for the test apparatusÃ,  > What I found was when the coil was parallel or inline to the core as with standard transformers, I could sense ~ .02 ma, if the coil was at a 90 degrees to the core a reading of .5 ma was shown. Adjusting the spark gap from a crackling sound to a hissing sound showed up to 1ma. Ã,“I know its not much but itÃ,’s far more than that produced with a regular spark and if the spark gap is closed there is nothing.Ã,”Ã,  As well the core is wrapped with finner gauge wire one width of wire except at the far right end where I rapped back a few mm. I found that there was arching between the raps. I thought about this all night and in my sleep I was wrapping coils in my dreams. My next experiment is to change the design of my primary <thick> coil to accommodate better propagation of longitudinal waves, more finding and studying of Tesla's new transformer. If anyone has a design in mind please share :) My thought is that we need to treat longitudinal waves different than those of our current understanding and that hitting the copper with a sudden jolt produces a wave but not the same wave as electrons traveling a rap of wire.Ã, 
By the way criticism is like a failed experiment you always come away with new knowledge.
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CamsterÃ,  Ã,  Ã,  Ã,  Ã,  Ã,  Ã,  Ã,  Ã, Ã, 

c0mster

Quote from: dean_mcgowan on July 11, 2006, 11:40:32 PM
Here is a valid question.

How much energy crosses into the circuit reliably each time you initiate a spark ?

I don?t know if this question is for me but just so everyone knows my parameters I am using a 6 volt car coil driven by a 12v motorcycle battery that has a condenser to help protect the points, which is pulsed by using a small motor to spin a cam that operates a set of points <radio shack micro switch > The motor is driven by a hobby train power supply that allows me to change the speed that the SPDT micro switch is switched, the knob width of the cam sets the pulse on time in correlation to the speed of rotation. You ask why not use an npn transistor? Because the transistor can not provide a true on off pulse due to its inherent curve in base voltage over output, and I keep frying them. My coil is pulling +/- 1 amp at roughly +/- 7hz, very clean on off on a scope to the ms. The spark gap consists of 2 brass rods lathed to a point, I found both electrostatic and magnetic properties when using brass and only brass produced both. The wattage, well I haven?t begun to take those measurements until I see higher gain in the new Tesla transformer. But I think a static generator would be a better source, or if I could get that dynamo Tesla was using. But to prove the theory I will stick with my current source which produces the voltage type I need.

Camster       

gn0stik

What we need to remember here is that SM's device is not an "ether" device. Although ether may be involved somewhere, it gains it's power via a current gain by collecting and multiplying kicks. The kicks are identified by a mechanical jump caused by the induced magnetic field interacting with the earth's magnetic field(remember the page out of the book, and the jumper cables experiment, which I was able to do), as kicks occur in the bailing wire segments successively, and the current moves around the outside of the toroid, this mechanical force causes the gyroscopic effect, and rotating magnetic field, it is a MECHANICAL FORCE moving around the outside of the device, this is why it's bound together so tightly. It would likely unravel itself if it were not. As with any motion, it tends to like to stay in motion. This is also why you see the little tidbits of a conversation between Mannix and SM regarding using it as a motive drive system of some sort.

Quote from: SM
In regard to your query about the pulse DC conversion and the potential use of the coil to provide motive force:
The multiple frequencies traveling around the coils are of too high a frequency to provide for any motive effort.

If it were an ether device, it would have no heating problems. All accounts I've read of Tesla's and Gray's work, have indicated that it runs cool. To get back to some basics, and a clearer focus, perhaps we should go back and re-read some pre-page 45 stuff. As we tend to get off the known path after a while around here.

@Dean

I was not talking about using the spark gap for any kind of permanent mode of accomplishing anything in a finished device.
Just as a method of introducing a quick jump of current in wire with a sharp rise time, in order to measure kicks.
We can wind some coils to do this, or simply work with some wire.

A system that would use a spark gap as part of it's operation would be more related to a tesla device, or defenitely a Gray device, his conversion unit was a spark gap surrounded by a mesh, and a resistor on the other side of the gap. 

tishatang

Hi gnostik,

I assume the first part of your latest post was in response to my post about Aspden.
You missed the point completely.

Here is a scholarly work on how the power of the initial kicks is amplified, whether those kicks come from a magnet or the aether or whatever.
If you negatively pulse a discharging capacitor, it rebounds with gained energy from the aether, so the theory
says.

In all my reading, this is the first time this has been explained so eloquently and simple.  So, when it's time to experiment, instead of just pulsing  dc, you pulse with a positive and then a negative in time with the frequency of the circuit.  Maybe this is the control mechanism of the SM device.  By just varying the pulse width, you control gain.  It is interesting this Piggin paper was in 1983. about the same time SM started as I recall.

A self-resonate coil of wire would also be a cylinder capacitor and subject to Aspden's theory.  Although, later in his notes, he thinks parallel capacitors would also work.

I take issue with your statement that there is a mechanical force moving around the outside the device.  This implies mass and inertia.  What is going on is a cogging effect with the magnetic field of the earth and the rotating fields of the device.

Tishatang

gn0stik

No I was not repsonding to you tish. You can take issue with it if you like, but go back and read, and re-read all of Mannix/SM's remarks and the hints they were dropping, you'll see these kicks definitely have a mechanical component.. The mechanical force is just an easy to see indicator. The gyroscopic effect that is demonstrated is the result of thousands of those "jumper cable" experiments on a small scale. Remember, they said your training will not help you with this, you will have to drop all your preconceptions. I agree with you to a degree that it's a "cogging effect", but not as you simply state it. If it's simply a cogging effect, we should be able to see the same reaction by tying a magnet to a string and swinging it over our heads. The fact is, without some kind of amplification, the earth's magnetic field is not strong enough to cause too much drag at all. Least of all no visible effects. Something else is happening here.

Something happens in ALL wire when current is suddenly sent down it. The book was simply explaining why filaments fail over a period of time. It was explaining that this kick causes micro fissures in the surface of the material which eventually causes it to break. Find a lightbulub with a loose filament, you know the little springy kind. Flash it really quick. Watch the filament, what does it do? Why do lightbulbs always burn out when you first turn them on?

Let's use some conventional analogies to talk about "electron" flow. When electrons flow down a wire is it a bunch of particles all freely zipping down there at the speed of light, completely unencumbered? Sure, for a very short time, after that, it's more like those little pendulum office toys where one ball hits a line of balls and the end ball shoots off to repeat the process. Wow, mass and Inertia! Is there not inertia there? Do electrons not have mass? But initially when they are all struggling to become ordered in that first short time frame (microsecond? picosecond?), they are all pushing and shoving like a bunch of highschool football players trying get a good place in the lunch line.

The kick always happens, in all wire, "when a current is first caused to flow" in it. SM has noticed, that something special is happening here. The earth's magnetic field should not be strong enough to cause this kind of interaction, but yet it does seem to. So why does a small magnetic field in a wire react so strongly to the earth's magnetic field?

This is all I'm focusing on, I was not responding specifically to you. Is the energy gain caused by ether? Perhaps. But that comes when the current is caused to stop flowing abruptly at the peak of the kick ;)

By the way, do you know what happens when current is cut off abruptly? Voltage increases to compensate. And it increases dramatically, in order to create it's own path. Is this the cause of his increase? Who knows. But a CURRENT component is needed to keep the kicks going. We do know that.