The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"

[bob.diroto]

The way Gray did it was to use an electron tube, which is connected to the plus side of a 12/6 V battery, on one side of the spark gap, and the PLUS SIDE of a capacitor on the other side of the spark gap. Then Gray would turn on the electron tube for about 10-50 microseconds and sharply turn it off. Since the electron tube acts like really good diode, BEFORE he pulses the electron tube on and off, it is acting like a diode so the high voltage on the capacitor is seeing NOTHING on the other side of the spark gap. Then when Gray pulses the electron tube the high voltage capacitor, usually at 3000V, sees 12V or 6V(depending on the battery he used) on the other side of the spark gap and then it JUMPS to the other side, right about this time(10-50 microseconds) Gray turns OFF the electron tube and now it is a really good DIODE again, thereby stoping the current in its tracks. Since Gray discharged the 3000V to a POSITIVE VOLTAGE, he there by was creating ELECTROPOSITIVE RADIANT ENERGY, COLD ELECTRICITY. This is why Gray called his process 'splitting the positive'. And Gray would NEVER show anyone his electron tube pulsing circuit, OR his conversion tube!

This circuit very nicely gets round the problem of switching high voltages.

By pulsing the electron tube which is positioned on the 12 volts side of the circuit the electron tube at the time of switching on is only switching 12volts. Switching off whilst at a high voltage is likely to be at a very low current if the resistance in the top of the conversion tube is very high. (Thinking about this, wouldn't you get a large voltage drop across the resistor if it was a large enough resistor ? Therefore the voltage the switch would see at turn off would also be small ? Tao, do you know the answer to this one ?)

I'm aware that current is deemed to flow +ve to -ve but electrons actually drift -ve to +ve. I'd always assumed that the order of components in the tesla magnifying transmitter was:

+ve capacitor -> spark gap -> collection tube/primary etc-> earth/-ve.

However, as Tao pointed out, as the 12v+ve is acting as the -ve for purposes of this circuit, you actually have:

+3000ve capacitor -> collection tube->spark gap-> +12v battery (effective -ve)

I'm wondering whether the conversion tube, in gray's diagram, shouldn't actually be the other way around (rotated 180degrees) ?

Or has it always been the case that for radiant energy you consider the electron flow to determine the order of the components ?

[gn0stik]

And SM's device is an Electro-Negative radiant device? Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems Ed's device is a more evolved version of the SM device. They both seem to work on producing energy in a similar way, albeit by different means, similar principles apply. EVG used electromagnets, whereas SM uses the earths magnetic field. The conversion element in Grey's device is what is used to convert from EM-Neg to EM-Pos, splitting the positive, and thereby overcoming the heating, runaway, and danger problems with SM's device. It seems a marriage of these two technologies would be the ultimate free energy device.

My question is do you think that the control circuitry in the patent, and as described by Peter, are applicable to the SM device?

Here are z_p_e's circuits for comparison.

[c0mster]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6531378517026122577&q=free+energy

This was a great video.
Much appreciated.

Camster

[Nali2001]

also see:

Tesla transverse and longitudinal electric waves
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-721789270445596549&q=tesla

Tesla longitudinal electricity
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6461713170757457294&q=tesla

[gn0stik]

This circuit very nicely gets round the problem of switching high voltages.

By pulsing the electron tube which is positioned on the 12 volts side of the circuit the electron tube at the time of switching on is only switching 12volts. Switching off whilst at a high voltage is likely to be at a very low current if the resistance in the top of the conversion tube is very high. (Thinking about this, wouldn't you get a large voltage drop across the resistor if it was a large enough resistor ? Therefore the voltage the switch would see at turn off would also be small ? Tao, do you know the answer to this one ?)

I don't know the answer to this for sure, but that is perhaps why Gray used a block of carbon .

I'm aware that current is deemed to flow +ve to -ve but electrons actually drift -ve to +ve. I'd always assumed that the order of components in the tesla magnifying transmitter was:

+ve capacitor -> spark gap -> collection tube/primary etc-> earth/-ve.

However, as Tao pointed out, as the 12v+ve is acting as the -ve for purposes of this circuit, you actually have:

+3000ve capacitor -> collection tube->spark gap-> +12v battery (effective -ve)

I'm wondering whether the conversion tube, in gray's diagram, shouldn't actually be the other way around (rotated 180degrees) ?

Or has it always been the case that for radiant energy you consider the electron flow to determine the order of the components ?

Look at the image I made below, Tesla's system and Gray's systems are the same.

I just got off the phone with Peter Lindemann. He's doing a talk at the upcoming Tesla Tech in SLC Utah at the end of this month.
He's a very, VERY informative guy.

For research materials he suggested.

The Inventions, Researches, and Writings of Nikola Tesla, which contains Lectures and research by Nikola Tesla. It can be found here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EAC7NE/sr=8-2/qid=1151789980/ref=sr_1_2/104-3292845-9583160?ie=UTF8

His book, of course, and The Secrets of Cold War Technology, which can be found on his site.

The Border Lands archives, related to Eric Dollard.

A paper called "On Light and Other High Frequency Phenomenon" By Tesla, which is a chapter in the first book I mentioned, but here is a link to a pdf of the article.

http://ban.junis.ni.ac.yu/Bibl/tesla/tesla_Predavanja/1893_Light_and_Other_HF_Phenomena(Lecture).pdf

What he explained to me, is that splitting the positive is breaking voltage free from current. 

There is an inverse of what happens in a capacitor when it is discharge into a zero impedence wire, and it creates huge amounts of current.

Basically the concept is that when the current in a high impedence inductor collapses, and hence the magnetic field collapses abruptly,  the voltage rises to compensate and create current in the wire because it absolutely HAS to have a path.

Eric Dollard in working with Tesla's principles, discovered that a field effect produced by 1 Ampere CAN be produced by VOLTAGE ALONE!
It takes aproximately 100,000 volts of potential to create the field equivalent to what is produced by 1 amp. This is how over balanced our understanding of electro-magnetism is toward magnetism. And to have 1 volt truly have an equivalence. We'd have to readjust our measurement system entirely. 1 volt should be equal to what is actually considered to be 100,000 volts by todays measurements.

With electricity as it is commonly thought of, as having a component of voltage, and current, voltage is the free part of the equation. Current is actually the breaks in the system. That every conventional electro magnetic motor we have is running with the brakes on so to speak.

Separating the current from the voltage(splitting the positive) is what Telsa did and it is what EV Gray did. Grey did not invent his device. Yes Tao you are correct, HE COPIED IT!, and yes he got his ideas from his buddy at NASA, Tesla's assistant. According to Peter, the reason EG was so closed mouth about his device, is that if anyone more competent than Grey worked on it, he would be swept aside (such was his fear), he even fired his son EV Gray Jr., whom Peter spoke to, who did engineering drawings for him, for asking too many questions about his device.

What Nali2001 posted about logitudinal waves is dead on. That's the key.... At least to Grey's Devices, and perhaps to SM's as well. Perhaps it didn't work from the magnetic field lines of the earth after all.

Also check this out for TEM/LMD stuff. J.L.N did some experiements on this effect.

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/lmdtem.htm

Also, he says that the effect that grey produced HAS BEEN REPRODUCED.. There have however been problems with the circuits exploding however. Not many people today have much knowlege about electron tubes, and so have tried without success to replace that with a thyristor or SCR, instead of the thyratron(the component #28 you point to above) which is supposed to be there. At least that is my understanding (He talks very fast). But here my friends is the source of the KICKS!!!! The real source. And the science behind them.

I'm half thinking of working on EG's circuit instead simply because there is so much more info on it.

Also Peter told me that the little note at the beginning of his video proved a bit over optimistic. That not any competent EE can produce the Grey device by taking close notes of his video and book. MUCH study is needed.

He also said that it would be OK to call him ANY TIME, regarding clarification, and help on any reproduction attempts. He's an AWESOME guy! very personable, and a treasure trove of knowlege. My head is bursting. I'm sure I only got down a small fraction of what he told me.