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Overunity Machines Forum



Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

Started by AquariuZ, April 03, 2009, 01:17:07 PM

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AquariuZ

Quote from: mondrasek on April 07, 2009, 03:54:19 PM
AquariuZ, just some food for thought:  You are right that the weights generate the most clockwise torque when at three o'clock.  But they are also generating the most force (F = ma) at six o'clock.  This is where you say something spectacular needs to happen.  Unfortunately that Force is also in the wrong direction (down).

Exactly, spectacular because the dumbbell needs to rise straight against the full force of gravity at six o clock.

One thing I am almost certain of now: the weights are not on the wheel between the six and twelve o clock position

The "D" acceleration path gives away more than Sjack would have liked if I am correct. It must be dumbbells the way he describes them and the way the wheel looks from the side. Looking at 0:08 of the video the stopper might very well be a wooden beam as well. I measure about two fists room between the two parts, so that would be around 33 cm or some 10 inches.

Looking at the floor under the wheel there indeed seems to be some sort of placeholder (for a beam?) there, but the quality of the video is simply too poor to be sure.

mondrasek

Quote from: AquariuZ on April 07, 2009, 04:16:11 PM

One thing I am almost certain of now: the weights are not on the wheel between the six and twelve o clock position


Well, still *in* the wheel, just no longer at the end of the slots by the rim, right?  Those slots go towards the center of the wheel and would act like a cam, forcing the weights to rise and move inward towards the axle if the weights ran into an obstruction just past six o'clock (back side of the D).  The weights could be accelerated upwards by the slots until at the mid-line of the wheel, to nine o'clock, right beside the axle.  Lifting the weight to there would use up 1/2 the momentum the weight produced while falling down from 12 to six on the torque producing portion of the cycle.  Then from this position the spectacular event must take place.  I get that from the website FAQs where he says, "In the topleft of the system the weight is accelerated (like a shot put)."  I take topleft to mean from nine to 12 o'clock.

He also says that the extra force is generated in the lower left of the system.  If this is between six and nine o'clock I think it must come from changing the path of the rotating weight so they begin their upward climb.  This changing of path must allow for the release of some of the kinetic energy to be used to launch a weight already at the nine o'clock position spectacularly (violently) upwards, and slightly to the right, or clockwise, like the arrow in his logo again?

M.

AquariuZ

I think the weights at six move straight up and pass over the axle and lock right into a position between twelve and one o clock. I am trying to draw that right now just to see if that is at all possible...

khabe

Hereby the only really working gravity machine I have seen,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVqKluBjcag&feature=related
Selfrunning one :o
Very Over Unity 8)
cheers,
khabe

AquariuZ

Quote from: khabe on April 07, 2009, 05:34:03 PM
Hereby the only really working gravity machine I have seen,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVqKluBjcag&feature=related
Selfrunning one :o
Very Over Unity 8)
cheers,
khabe

You know, that was very entertaining, even though it is well off topic. The way he gets up and walks away is classic in every sense of the word.

8)

Now back to the drawing board...