Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

[Omnibus]

@omni,

I am intrigued, give me an example of an instance, please

Phil

No, I'm not willing to discuss this again. This is a settled issue, discussed in numerous threads and forums. Not again. I'm all set with it and I'm looking forward to these new claims. As you can imagine, I would have paid exactly zero attention to these claims had I not been convinced energy "out of nothing" can be produced even if it's only discontinuously so far.

[Philip Hardcastle]

@Omni,

I was not attacking or being rude.

Hope I have not struck a bad note with you.

If you can tell me where I should look then that would be good.

Tell me what you think of Curled Ballistics. In fact have a few shots at me if you want, I need a bit of fire today to make the time go faster.

Regards Phil

[Grimer]

@ spinner (continued)

It is easy to demonstrate that inertia (mass) can be polarized. If you have a black box full of gyros randomly oriented and in fixed gimbals then the rotational inertia around any axis is the same. If one now points half of the gyros north south and the other half south north so that all axis of rotation are parallel then the rotational inertia perpendicular the axis will be much less than the rotation inertial for planes parallel to the axes.

Also it is possible to demonstrate that one can get energy out of the gravitational field, that one can create a gravitational mill in principle, albeit not one that is economically sensible

You simply have the left side of a vertical annular tube filled with hydrogen and the right hemisphere with the same number of moles of helium. Both have the same number of nucleons but the hydrogen weighs more than the helium therefore the mill will accelerate until the gravitational energy released balances frictional losses at which point it will rotate at constant rpm.

At bottom dead centre you trigger the fusion reaction to turn the hydrogen into helium. You collect the energy from this and return it to the tube at top dead centre.  Energy inputs and outputs are equal. So the left side is always filled with hydrogen and the right with helium.

Now, obviously, such a machine is not a practical proposition. It is merely meant to illustrate the point the mass (inertia) and matter are not indissolubly coupled. Matter is conserved, mass isn't. Mass is a property of matter just like temperature. It's an accident not a substance to use the philosophical terms.

[Omnibus]

@Philip Hardcastle,

I've written papers on that violation, I have a site with detailed argumentation and so on but I'm reluctant to get into this now. We'll talk about it when the time comes. At present I'd like to see whether or not these several claims for continuous production of excess energy are real. The closest so far that I've seen personally is Reidar Finsrud's but there are still some questions to be answered regarding his contraption. Of course, there cannot be anything more interesting than a gravity "powered" wheel, as advertised in this instance. Too bad everything is shrouded in such secrecy. They think they can make money off of it somehow, that is, off of something inherently free. If these constructors really care about their best interest, instead of hiding it, they should disclose it as soon as possible to as many people as they can possibly reach. This ill-conceived secrecy only hurts their cause, let alone the true interests of society.

[AquariuZ]

Not sure if i understand it correctly, but could it be something like this?

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7175.msg169167#msg169167

Use the energy in the ball (Gravitational and rotary) to lift it independently from the main wheel, Slingshot it and reuse it whit gravity.
So you have the ball force only helping turning the wheel, taking the load off (or minimizing)  the wheel on the way up.

This just about sums it up. I think Abelings wheel is based on this principle and he uses dumbbells.