Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

[Cloxxki]

OK, you're still getting that from wm2d? Would it be fooled by the initially increased velocity of the ball below the axle height?
It seems like he free rolling weight doesn't load the rotating bar as much, even when it's in a high-torque location, as long as it's rolling fast?

This setup should be easy enough to verify in a build, logic tell me it's unlikely of working.

In everyday life, and playing as a child, I did notice this phenomenon. At least, the combination of a long arm when a weight rolling away on it, as the arm rotates up. The acceleration of the weight seems enhances due to the arm not only coming back up, but at a changing angle. Not sure where I'm getting this association from, but think of a glass marble in a stiff pvc type of sorts.

If this setup truly works, you have beaten unity by applying velocity and angle in a smart relationship. Hurray, and the Nobel Prize for you!

If it doesn't work (grrr, stupid wm2d), place a shute on the right hand side of the bar, for the ball to be lauched upwards when having optimal speed and height (both initially rise together at the cost of the bar's height it seems). The ball shoots up, the bar is forced down as counter action. SHee what happens.

The long bar is 100% balanced in it's axle right? Will it balance itself at any angle?

[Russell Lee]

This newest amazing discovery is following the footsteps of all the others that proved to be false.  There is always delays, delays, and more delays.  The inner workings are never published, there are always promises to build one soon.  This might have to be filed with the rest unless somethig substantial happens soon.  At least let us actually SEE the inner workings.  Right now it's just smoke, no fire. -Russ

Greetings.

I was surprised to see a search on Abeling receiving "0" hits.

So, long overdue as he is about to go ballistic. (I think)

In November of 2007, an unknown dutch inventor made the rather outlandish claim he had found a way to rotate and accelerate a large wheel by using twin weights and earths gravity as only propulsion. At the time this was merely ruled a hoax.

See the dutch media (local) coverage here: Noord TV Report on Abeling device Edit: added Broli´s version with subs

After that it has been very quiet around Sjack, until a few months back he created a company Abeling Beheer B.V. and started a website which explains his intentions:

"The construction of the first Weight Power Plant is expected in May 2009. The location for the construction of the first Weight Power Plant is probably going to be the province of Groningen, the Netherlands."

and

"The Fall and Lift control system. The invention of the "Fall and Lift control system" was done towards the end of 2006. The system transports, controls and transmits mass/weight to (for instance) a drive shaft. This system was the foundation for a machine that can work on weights/mass only, without adding any form of energy. It's purpose is to drive other objects."

Abeling claims he now partners with reputable businesses like Henkel and has all the approvals needed to go ahead with the project.

Link to the bi-lingual webpage: http://mooieenergie.nl

He appears to be a cool customer, not at all media hungry, and has quietly filed his patents, raised capital and signed partner agreements.

Time will tell if he is 100% legit, his claim is that he will be able to provide power to the general public with at least a 50% discount against current regular provider rates. I think that still is too high, 95% would be better.

My questions to all in here are:

1) What do you think?
2) Have you heard anything about this?
3) If this is a "scam" why pursue it further now that he has all he needs?

My thoughts are that he truly has found a way to generate acceleration using weights and gravity only, or at least HE is 100% convinced.

I have sent him a message of encouragement, warning and a plea for full publication as soon as possible.

[ResinRat2]

I think you are right.

I went to the website link and read their quote on one page:

"We work hard to bring a commercially viable system or product to the market within three years.".

That was in May of this year (2009). So I guess everyone will have to wait another three years (or longer) to see anything at all.

Yes, looks like the same post, delay, post, delay,...etc. events going on as in the past fakes.

I could literally STRANGLE some people with my bare hands. Instead I would curse them with painful and bleeding hemmoroids if I could.

RR2

[Omnibus]

@Russell Lee,

This newest amazing discovery is following the footsteps of all the others that proved to be false.  There is always delays, delays, and more delays.  The inner workings are never published, there are always promises to build one soon.  This might have to be filed with the rest unless somethig substantial happens soon.  At least let us actually SEE the inner workings.  Right now it's just smoke, no fire. -Russ

The problem with this amazing discovery (known for several centuries already) is not that it is false but that the technical skills of your average constructor are wanting. It might have been made successfully down in history, and then suppressed, it might have not. We don't know. All we know for sure is that constructively there is a persistent discrepancy between the position of the center of mass vs the axis of rotation. Center of mass is always to the right of the axis of rotation for any angle of rotation of the wheel without exception. This is a given, a characteristic set in stone for this device which insures persistent violation of the lever rule at all angles of rotation of the wheel. That's on the one hand. That's the given. On the other hand there is friction which is not a given. Friction can be greater or lesser, dependein on how skilfully one manufactures the wheel. By increasing friction (say, by introducing sand into the working chamber) one may make a perfectly functional internal combustion engine to stall. In our case, by decreasing friction through skillful mechanical solutions below the level of opposing the, call it, OU effect (dues to the above set-in-stone characteristics) we may have a perfectly functioning Bessler (Abeling) Wheel. Simple as that.

[Cloxxki]

With all the thinking I've done on gravity wheels, I've come no further than the simple calculation:

A single weight on a centrally spun wheel, will take longer (time, 11% I seem to remember) to make a half revolution from 12 to 6, than it would take to, by non-circular means, back to 12, to the same height. Simply by taking a short cut, logically along the axle. So, in a 2-weight system, we could come down along the rim, at 6 leave the rim and hit a barrier to bounce us right back to 12. One weight could be starting the next half-revolution (with a tiny amount of work done perhaps?), before the other is done putting in work at 6. So we'd have 2 working weights on ons side of the wheel.

What Abeling might have done on a similar theory, is
A- reduce friction obvously
B- create a further velocity imbalance as widely discussed here, to reach a proper startup-velocity which may be required to complete the first full revolution.

Due to work done, irentia is lost in a weight, it may be able to use the spare time to build up some more. Time rather than hight. Don't ask me how. Yet.

My strong hunch is that, if there is OU, it's to be found in the time/vertical distance/speed relationship.