Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

[hartiberlin]

Tnx, i repaired it myself also.

Here you can see the flying path of the ball...  I think this is the force we seek......

"may the force be with you" 

Interesting design,
so you just want to pu the ball via the "flying" ramp into the height at 6 o´clock, so that it could be picked up by
the next lever arm ?
Please explain more in detail.
Many thanks.
P.S. For those who don´t have WM2D it would be good to also post a small screenshot at least.

Regards, Stefan.

[persume]

@Stefan



I totally agree Abeling is hiding something, because at best you have a very low loss construction like one of the models I posted earlier. Not overunity. AZ

Maybe he has just made a mistake; isn't it possible that a free energy inventor might make a mistake?

I just love how some of you guys go to whatever lengths to justify your belief in free energy. Don't get me wrong, I am not negating the possibility of free energy, but I let the interest of it stand on its own. I find the need to justify it by coming up with new catch phrases like overunity, or retheorizing over and over again forces like gravity and comparing them to wind, or quoting some notible scientist who at one time may have considered perpetual motion ( what good thinker wouldn't have ) to be quite frankly - idiotic.

[hartiberlin]

I just made a test with WM2D regarding the centrifugal forces.
I just took a 5 Kg weight and applied to it a "sloted" path.
The weight starts rolling down to the right side the slope down,
then turns inside the slot and comes back up the left slope.

If it gains energy by the centrifugal forces, it should go over the top and continue.

Well, it does it 4 or 5 times over the top and then the next time it does not take the top,
but goes the other way back.

So as potential energy is converted into kinetic energy, this is a balance and
it seems, the centrifugal forces do not put additional energy into the system.
Why it goes for the first 5 times over the top is probably a calculation error of WM2D, cause
no friction was applied.

Regards, Stefan.
Attached is also the WM2D file

[mondrasek]

Why it goes for the first 5 times over the top is probably a calculation error of WM2D, cause
no friction was applied.

Decrease the animation step to get more accurate results and it does not go over the top.

Centrifugal Force is not a true force.  It is the effect of changing the direction of travel of an object (that should go straight) into a circular path.  Changing the path of a weight into a circle requires and acceleration towards the axle.  CF is the equal and opposite acceleration that points away from the axle of a wheel.

When you spin a weight attached to a string around your head, you are applying a force by holding the string.  This force is equal and opposite to the fictional force called Centrifugal Force.  In truth you are providing an acceleration that bends the path of the weight on the end of the string into a circle.  If you let go of the string the weight will travel in a straight line as is the nature of objects.  At the moment of release, the fictional CF also disapears.

So it takes energy, or proper construction (a wheel) to create CF.  It is not a Force that we can use to extract energy, or so we are taught.

Not trying to be negative here, just offer the classical explanation for those who might wnat to read it.  I too look for the "imposible"  way to harvest Gravity and CF.

M.

[0c]

For some adventuresome WM2D user:

Create a 1 meter diameter wheel that has eight 1Kg steel balls/weights held inside at the periphery. Provide a ball escape mechanism for at least one ball which can be triggered to release the ball. Mount the wheel so the lowest portion is 1 meter from a perfectly elastic surface which is 90 degrees to the escape trajectory (you may need to try a couple runs to get the correct trajectory).

Now spin the wheel at 100 RPM and release one ball at the bottom (6:00 position) and see how high it bounces. Also note any changes to wheel rotation when the ball escapes. Now repeat the experiment at 200 RPM and note the difference.

The purpose of this experiment is to see how much energy (momentum) the ball acquires from the centrifugal force of the spinning wheel. We all know what the gravitational effects will be.

A few pages back, I described a system where the balls actually leave the wheel at the bottom and are recaptured at the top. In that concept, there are only weights on one side of the wheel, once it gets up to operating speed. This simple experiment should provide some information about weight and wheel behavior under these conditions, which might be useful for determining the feasibility of using a ball return mechanism external to the rotating device.