Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

[itanimuLLi]

how about this

[mondrasek]

Confident enough to discuss the thinking that underlies the analysis and I have no objection to you starting another thread to discuss it.

I am happy to answer questions and discuss things in a polite and calm manner. However, my experience of most forums, especially loosely moderated ones, is that when one introduces radically new viewpoints (like gravity being a vertical wind blowing steadily downward for instance) it so disturbs peoples view of things that discussions quickly dissolve into slanging matches.

And I've been in quite enough of those on the Steorn Forum.

I have been reading the history of the Bessler wheel. It provided plenty of examples of the kind of vitriolic opposition radically new ideas engender.

Thanks.  New thread here:  http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7225.new#new

I have to say that yours are one of the few posts on Steorn that I bother to read.  I mainly go there to see if there is any news on that front.  Appears to be as much bickering and off topic slanging there as happens here as well.

It is because of the Bessler info that I follow these threads on gravity wheels.  All my schooling and experiments confirm a gravity wheel cannot work.  But I cannot mentally resolve the information about Bessler.  How could he have fooled so many people for so long?  I cannot dismiss all that information as just an elaborate hoax.  So I am stuck looking for what he discovered.

I truly hope that Abeling has discovered something and is not caught up in a "it should work" idea that he has only proved in parts but not as a whole.  His comments that are similar to Bessler's makes me wonder, "Did he figure out what Bessler figured out?", or, "Is he educated about Bessler and using that info to fuel his hoax/delusion?".

M.

[Grimer]

Thanks.  New thread here:  http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7225.new#new

I have to say that yours are one of the few posts on Steorn that I bother to read.  I mainly go there to see if there is any news on that front.  Appears to be as much bickering and off topic slanging there as happens here as well.

It is because of the Bessler info that I follow these threads on gravity wheels.  All my schooling and experiments confirm a gravity wheel cannot work.  But I cannot mentally resolve the information about Bessler.  How could he have fooled so many people for so long?  I cannot dismiss all that information as just an elaborate hoax.  So I am stuck looking for what he discovered.

I truly hope that Abeling has discovered something and is not caught up in a "it should work" idea that he has only proved in parts but not as a whole.  His comments that are similar to Bessler's makes me wonder, "Did he figure out what Bessler figured out?", or, "Is he educated about Bessler and using that info to fuel his hoax/delusion?".

M.

If you approach Bessler's story as a piece of history and leave all your scientific prejudices behind, then in my view it is perfectly obvious that he had what he claimed and he had harvested the force of gravity, the gravitational potential, the vertical gravitational wind that blows steadily down.

It is enormously difficult to get rid of those prejudices. Even though intellectually, early in my career, I could see that the aether must exist, must hold things together, and that internal tensions were simply reduction in external pressure,  it was years before I felt it emotionally and it was only when I did feel it emotionally that I could harness the implications to my research.

[gyulasun]

how about this

Very clever, I like it!

Gyula

[AquariuZ]

AquariuZ you said the white circle in the logo ( you have it pictured in black on a modification you did ) was the axle of the wheel.

Abeling marked this with "As" which is the Dutch word for "Axle".