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Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

Started by AquariuZ, April 03, 2009, 01:17:07 PM

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canam101

Quote from: Omnibus on April 18, 2009, 06:56:49 AM
@canam101,

So, where’s your proof that a contraptions such as the one offered by Abeling can never work

I am not talking about Abeling's wheel, but about this site. Not one of the hundreds of devices that have been discussed here has turned out to be OU.

That doesn't mean the site is useless. It is a great place to fantasize about OU; it is one of my favorite places on the internet.

As far as Abeling's wheel goes, people have been trying to get work out of unbalanced wheels for 200 years: they did not succeed and there is not the slightest reason to think that Abeling will succeed either. If you think there is some reason that his wheel will do work, let's hear it.

Another thing: Abeling hasn't even shown the wheel turning has he? At least mylow shot some video showing his wheel turning, even if he was obviously deluded or faking.

Abeling at least owes us a little more for our fantasies to feed on.

Omnibus

@canam101,

Quotepeople have been trying to get work out of unbalanced wheels for 200 years: they did not succeed

You’re just repeating what the propaganda says. There’s no proof that that is true.
It very well may be that such devices have existed in the past but have been suppressed. A lot of nasty nonsense is going on in the world of science as we speak,  that people such as those participating in this forum can do nothing about. The fact, however, that people in this forum can do nothing about the blatant nonsense going on in the world of science right now, as we speak, in no way means that everything is OK. If you don't have agenda or anything to gain from serving the propaganda, leave advocating that propaganda crap to its own lackeys and try to think with your own head.

Quotethere is not the slightest reason to think that Abeling will succeed either. If you think there is some reason that his wheel will do work, let's hear it.

A form of the egg-shaped groove, combined with a particular form of the wheel spokes may exist which will ensure permanent violation of the level balance rule. If you disagree prove rigorously that such combination yielding said result can never exist. If you can’t prove that rigorously and just keep on repeating what you’ve heard from the propaganda is simply useless.

canam101

Quote from: Omnibus on April 18, 2009, 08:13:39 AM
@canam101,

A form of the egg-shaped groove, combined with a particular form of the wheel spokes may exist which will ensure permanent violation of the level balance rule.

And pigs may fly.  Enjoy your fantasies, but try to recognize that they _are_ fantasies.

Omnibus

Quote from: canam101 on April 18, 2009, 08:19:22 AM
And pigs may fly.  Enjoy your fantasies, but try to recognize that they _are_ fantasies.

Not at all. Pigs don't fly doesn't cut the mustard. I told you what the condition for you is to become trustworthy. Until then restrain from calling fantasies something which you have no clue about.

AquariuZ

Omnibus, you are cracking up my friend. Hang in there I value your input more than you may think...

@canam101 I know I live in lala land. If you want hard evidence to that effect turn on your television and take your pick from 258 channels of mind spam.

Omnibus is right about the propaganda.

The static imbalance in the egg setup though: I fear the worst.... but keep trying anyway, my current hopes are experimentation with the hockeystick holders. If it can be reproduced in wm2d is another matter but we use what we have...

My real world attempts with ramp are not underway yet, I cannot get decent weights (out of stock)