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Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

Started by AquariuZ, April 03, 2009, 01:17:07 PM

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Cloxxki

@Omnibus
I'm afraid you're over-rating Dutch government's foresight in this matter. Any conspiracies understood to exist in the US, they most likely are not apart of, considered as unreliable and insignificant. We have always been hard to predict in our actions. A small nation, one time a mightly force, now humbly minding its own business.

And perhaps we should not forget the vital role this country has had after WW2 in offering a platform for the European Patent system.

The gains found in such a gravity device may not even end up being lower cost than from a 300 year old Dutch windmill. Abeling seems to have calculated 50% These things seriously GO, you know. Ever been in one? Made from wood and fabric.
I'm sure it's a novel thing to have, a gravity engine, but would it beat the windmills or the solar panel? All it does as far as I can oversee, is offer reason to amend to some basic physical laws which have been correctly devised in the past centuries. A ball rolling down a circular ramp will net zero velocity gained when reaching its starting height at the other side? If the ramp is shaped the same, and it's CF potential is allowed to smoothly flow away, sure.

Abeling's search for high-performance materials indicates that to harness the full potential of his invention (or, unknowing application of the missed formula), he is looking at an advanced machine. Advanced machines are economy as well. Our country has a name to uphold in inventing and producing them. We're a small insignificant coutry, and we love our underdog position. But we strive to be prood, and who know, Abeling may make us proud.
Footnote: if he's a 100% Fries, he's historically not Dutch though, but rather part of a surpressed people himself. They have their own rich culture and language, the latter of which still taught in higher education.

I don't understand any vector speak, but would be wondering if alternative weight paths could show more significant "excess" torque.
Is your position that a formular to trick gravity doesn't exist? Then I'm going to fetch a pen and paper and get started. That's Dutch culture, at least.

If a math programming specialist would be able to help me out, I'm up for the challenge. I've broken other other virgin codes before, and likely defeat doesn't scare me off. It would be logical to first wait until Dusty large-scale replication sees the light though. If it works, we'll want to know why, and why it isn't working even better.

Omnibus

@All,

Notice also that the result which wm2d yields when comparing the position of the mass center vs. the axle is only conservative. In reality, the effective weight on the left-hand side is even less than that on the right-hand side which makes the discrepancy in question, the cause of the perpetuum mobile effect, even greater.

Omnibus

@Cloxxki,

Since you're into programming, if I understood you correctly, and are willing to help, could you write a script in AutoCAD to calculate automatically the torques @eisenficker2000 is talking about for various positions of the wheel?

i_ron

Quote from: Omnibus on May 10, 2009, 10:43:40 AM
@All,

Notice also that the result which wm2d yields when comparing the position of the mass center vs. the axle is only conservative. In reality, the effective weight on the left-hand side is even less than that on the right-hand side which makes the discrepancy in question, the cause of the perpetuum mobile effect, even greater.

Tis only an illusion. Note that unlike this version below, that doesn't work, the patent shows more weights on the left than on the right...

Ron

eisenficker2000

Enclosed the Autocad drawing (as zipped dxf) and its constructed vectors to calculate the torques.